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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Heated Seats? (Gordon Forbess)
  2. Re: Re: Heated Seats? (David Utley)
  3. Re: Heated Seats? (Gordon Forbess)
  4. Zender Turbo Wheels (Eric S)
  5. Re: Power Steering Fluid (Patrick Bureau)
  6. BBS Wheels For Mars! (Peter)
  7. RE: BBS Wheels For Mars! (Denny Maula)
  8. Re: Re: Heated Seats? (David Utley)
  9. RE: BBS Wheels For Mars! (Peter)
 10. Re: Power Steering Fluid (Allyn)
 11. Re: BBS Wheels For Mars! (Matthew H.)
 12. PNs for back latch gaskets (C Boyko)
 13. Re: PNs for back latch gaskets (Mike Smith)
 14. Re: PNs for back latch gaskets (C Boyko)
 15. Re: this guy deserves a serious beatdown (Larry Fry)
 16. Re: this guy deserves a serious beatdown (Gordon Forbess)
 17. Fwd: Re: Mk1 Hatch filling with water (Cathy, P/N's inside)
     (Ron Pieper)
 18. Re: this guy deserves a serious beatdown (T Berk)
 19. RE: RE: Power Steering Fluid (Rick Kellner)
 20. mk1 lowering spring caps...for Bilstein Sports (Sandor)
 21. RE: mk1 lowering spring caps...for Bilstein Sports (Peter)
 22. Re: mk1 lowering spring caps...for Bilstein Sports (Mark F.)
 23. RE: mk1 lowering spring caps...for Bilstein Sports (Peter)
 24. Re: this guy deserves a serious beatdown (Matthew H.)
 25. WTB engine bracket (attempt 2) (koabi)
 26. RE: Are these Shannon's wheel's? (Shannon)
 27. 	RE: [SPAM] Re: Now: SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (was Re: It's
     legal now) (Shannon)
 28. Anyone need performance engine work done? (Mark F.)
 29. RE: Question for the Boosted guys.... (Shannon)
 30. RE: this guy deserves a serious beatdown (Shannon)
 31. WTB engine bracket (koabi)
 32. Aerodymanic studies (Julie Macfarlane)
 33. 16V fuel rail link (Rick Kellner)
 34. RE: Power Steering Fluid (Patrick Bureau)
 35. RE: BBS Wheels For Mars! (Patrick Bureau)
 36. RE: RE: Power Steering Fluid (Brian Wagner)
 37. will start, but won't stay running (Nathan Lowe)
 38. Re: mk1 lowering spring caps...for Bilstein Sports (David Utley)
 39. Re: will start, but won't stay running (David Utley)
 40. RE: Aerodymanic studies (Marc Getty)
 41. RE: Power Steering Fluid (Brad Sterling)
 42. Re: Question for the Boosted guys.... (cory)
 43. Re: Fwd: Re: Mk1 Hatch filling with water (Cathy, P/N's
     inside) (Neptuno)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 10:05:56 -0800
From: Gordon Forbess <gforbess@attglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Heated Seats?
To: Drew Mac <type53@gmail.com>
Cc: Scirocco List <scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <3cmlt01mb1i5529rjcdkru7t2ghf6o9n7a@4ax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:42:41 -0500, you wrote:

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:27:56 -0500, Roger concha <rogercv1@gmail.com> wrote:
I thought those where for the seat belt warning light

That is correct.  The heated seat wiring is a six-wire harness.

On the 1975 models, in addition to the warning light there was a
continuity loop created when the seat belt was buckled.  If you sat in
the seat and attempted to start the car without the belt fastened, no
go.  Needless to say, the warning light, buzzer and the starter
interlock (I think that's what they called it) were among the first
"weight saving" measures I applied to the car.

Gordon

75 Mk1/Drake 1.9
http://pws.prserv.net/gforbess/scirocco/scirocco.htm



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:07:36 -0500
From: David Utley <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Heated Seats?
To: Gordon Forbess <gforbess@attglobal.net>
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Message-ID:
	<20050104190734.CMHZ1713.lakermmtao09.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1



From: Gordon Forbess <gforbess@attglobal.net>
Date: 2005/01/04 Tue PM 01:05:56 EST
To: Drew Mac <type53@gmail.com>
CC: Scirocco List <scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
Subject: Re: Heated Seats?

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:42:41 -0500, you wrote:

>On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:27:56 -0500, Roger concha <rogercv1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I thought those where for the seat belt warning light
>
>That is correct.  The heated seat wiring is a six-wire harness.

On the 1975 models, in addition to the warning light there was a
continuity loop created when the seat belt was buckled.  If you sat in
the seat and attempted to start the car without the belt fastened, no
go.  Needless to say, the warning light, buzzer and the starter
interlock (I think that's what they called it) were among the first
"weight saving" measures I applied to the car.

Gordon

75 Mk1/Drake 1.9
http://pws.prserv.net/gforbess/scirocco/scirocco.htm

I had that crap on my '74 Beetle.  Eventually, the car would not start, and it took me a while before I figured it out (pre-Bentley)...

David




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 11:38:31 -0800
From: Gordon Forbess <gforbess@attglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Heated Seats?
To: fahrvegnugen@cox.net
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Message-ID: <rcrlt0hrvgq4mtfpcqgq10rovnu517i1u7@4ax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:07:36 -0500, you wrote:

On the 1975 models, in addition to the warning light there was a
continuity loop created when the seat belt was buckled.  If you sat in
the seat and attempted to start the car without the belt fastened, no
go.  Needless to say, the warning light, buzzer and the starter
interlock (I think that's what they called it) were among the first
"weight saving" measures I applied to the car.

Gordon

75 Mk1/Drake 1.9
http://pws.prserv.net/gforbess/scirocco/scirocco.htm

I had that crap on my '74 Beetle.  Eventually, the car would not start, and it took me a while before I figured it out (pre-Bentley)...

That was one of those bright ideas from the government as I recall.
You would often see people fastening the belt and then sitting on top
of it.  Dumb, and that eventually led the safety nazis to the (IMHO)
monumental annoyance of all time.. the traveling seat belt "mouse" on
the door frame.  That was one thing I hated about the Corrados that
had it.

Gordon

75 Mk1/Drake 1.9
http://pws.prserv.net/gforbess/scirocco/scirocco.htm



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:41:24 -0700 (MST)
From: "Eric S" <scirocco@vintagewatercooleds.com>
Subject: Zender Turbo Wheels
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Message-ID:
	<16959.192.18.101.5.1104867684.squirrel@www.vintagewatercooleds.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1


What would a set of Zender Turbos, 15x7 ET20 be worth?  Decent condition,
1 minor bend, has all centercaps and original key?

ET20 is probably a bit wide for me, so any of you widebody guys email me
privately and I can send you the link to where they are advertised.

--
Eric
www.vintagewatercooleds.com

1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
1988 Audi 90 Quattro
1990 Corrado TDI
1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)




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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:23:56 -0600
From: Patrick Bureau <patrick.bureau@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Power Steering Fluid
To: Rocco list <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <e9937a5705010412232eab9fe4@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Dextron II from Autozone (cheappy brand works fine)

Dextron brand is a Ford product I beleive



On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:01:49 -0800 (PST), RICHARD F KELLNER
<rfkellner@snet.net> wrote:
Is the Dextron II the Ford or GM version of ATF?  What about the new ATF (universal) that is used in most transmissions now?  Can the universal be used without causing problems?
Thanks, Rick.

Patrick Bureau <patrick.bureau@gmail.com> wrote:
DEXTRON II automatic transmission fluid is the recommended fluid for this
pump. (see user manual of vehicle - but it was in 85)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-
> bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Rick Kellner
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:36 AM
> To: 'Scirocco List'
> Subject: RE: Power Steering Fluid
>
> Al, is the power steering fluid that is typically available at a FLAPS
> acceptable or does VW require a special fluid?
> Thanks, Rick.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Allyn
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 6:45 PM
> To: Brad Sterling; Scirocco List
> Subject: Re: Power Steering Fluid
>
> a whining pump will not be corrected by any fluid changes. once they get
> to
> the whining point, they will stay that way until replaced. the plus side
>
> here is that i've never seen one grenade or anything drastic like that.
> that all said, it always helps to periodically change out the power
> steering
> fluid, as its an unfiltered system. there is this orange bottle stuff
> i've
> used. its marketed as a stop leak, but it does so by softening/expanding
> old
> seals. i've had this work near-magic on a leaking rack (going strong
> still
> for 2+ years, and i still have torn boots - still no leakage).
> Al
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad Sterling"
> To: "Scirocco List"
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 12:21 PM
> Subject: Power Steering Fluid
>
>
> > The power steering pump on my 16v is starting to make some noise like
> it's
> > low on fluid. Since I've basically done nothing with this unit sine
> I've
> > had to car, I think a flush and change of fluid is in order. Any
> > suggestions on a flush agent and/or fluid? TIA.
> >
> > -Brad
> > '86 Scirocco 16v
> >
> >
> >
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85 Scirocco, 86 Rocco MKII Race Project
'01 4L Jeep Cherokee Blue (Daily Driver)


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:21:59 -0500
From: "Peter" <peter@thescirocco.com>
Subject: BBS Wheels For Mars!
To: "'Scirocco list'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <200501041624406.SM01672@thedellou812>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I just scored a set of 14" BBS wheels for my '81 S...

http://thescirocco.com/images/BBSfromYellowZonker.jpg

They have Pirelli 600 tires in 205/55/14 on them now, and I'm going with a
set of 195/55/14's.

Peter
http://thescirocco.com/





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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:27:26 -0800
From: "Denny Maula" <DMaula@gordonrees.com>
Subject: RE: BBS Wheels For Mars!
To: <peter@thescirocco.com>, "Scirocco list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Message-ID:
	<061CD8E64E40D445BB9EEB016130987203E9C309@grsdex01.gordonrees.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

Oh man. Those are hot. Congrats.  Are they 2pc?


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter [mailto:peter@thescirocco.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 1:22 PM
To: 'Scirocco list'
Subject: BBS Wheels For Mars!


I just scored a set of 14" BBS wheels for my '81 S...

http://thescirocco.com/images/BBSfromYellowZonker.jpg

They have Pirelli 600 tires in 205/55/14 on them now, and I'm going with
a set of 195/55/14's.

Peter
http://thescirocco.com/




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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:36:14 -0500
From: David Utley <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Heated Seats?
To: Gordon Forbess <gforbess@attglobal.net>
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Message-ID:
	<20050104213614.KSCI22354.lakermmtao04.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1



>
>I had that crap on my '74 Beetle.  Eventually, the car would not start, and it took me a while before I figured it out (pre-Bentley)...

That was one of those bright ideas from the government as I recall.
You would often see people fastening the belt and then sitting on top
of it.  Dumb, and that eventually led the safety nazis to the (IMHO)
monumental annoyance of all time.. the traveling seat belt "mouse" on
the door frame.  That was one thing I hated about the Corrados that
had it.

Gordon

75 Mk1/Drake 1.9
http://pws.prserv.net/gforbess/scirocco/scirocco.htm



Yes, I agree...  Thing is, airbags will be the next abomination to cause owners to curse DOT.  1200.00 air bags?  Frequent faults with either the clockspring at the steering wheel, or harnesses at the side airbags?  In fact, I read an article overseas somewhere that 137 side airbags had deployed for no reason, they are considering a recall, but nothing at this point...  Possibly caused by static discharge?  What with possible frequent seat adjustments everytime you get in and out of the car?  Ack!  I am glad I do not have them...  My three-point safety belt is quite enough...

David

Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. --Ralph Waldo Emerson



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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:00:36 -0500
From: "Peter" <peter@thescirocco.com>
Subject: RE: BBS Wheels For Mars!
To: "'Denny Maula'" <DMaula@gordonrees.com>,	"'Scirocco list'"
	<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <200501041703515.SM01672@thedellou812>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Thanks Man!

They're one piece, unless you count the centercap. ;)

Peter
http://thescirocco.com/


-----Original Message-----
From: Denny Maula [mailto:DMaula@gordonrees.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:27 PM
To: peter@thescirocco.com; Scirocco list
Subject: RE: BBS Wheels For Mars!

Oh man. Those are hot. Congrats.  Are they 2pc?


-----Original Message-----
From: Peter [mailto:peter@thescirocco.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 1:22 PM
To: 'Scirocco list'
Subject: BBS Wheels For Mars!


I just scored a set of 14" BBS wheels for my '81 S...

http://thescirocco.com/images/BBSfromYellowZonker.jpg

They have Pirelli 600 tires in 205/55/14 on them now, and I'm going with
a set of 195/55/14's.

Peter
http://thescirocco.com/






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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:39:06 -0500
From: "Allyn" <amalventano1@tds.net>
Subject: Re: Power Steering Fluid
To: "Patrick Bureau" <patrick.bureau@gmail.com>,        "'Brad
	Sterling'" <bgsterling@bluebottle.com>,        "'Scirocco List'"
	<scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <003b01c4f2ae$33575810$0301a8c0@main>
Content-Type: text/plain;	format=flowed;	charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=original

Actually I agree with all , except there is a FILTER in the return bottle,
undo the black cap (unscrews from bottle) remove carefully the plate and the
filter is at the bottom.. and last time I changed my PS pump I changed the
filter and VW had the part in stock still...

Lmk if you need the PN#

sweet, i had no idea. got that part number handy?
Al



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:05:22 -0500
From: "Matthew H." <rjtremor@core.com>
Subject: Re: BBS Wheels For Mars!
To: <peter@thescirocco.com>, "'Scirocco list'"
	<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <002401c4f2b1$df46f880$69605dd8@Musclewuff>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter" <peter@thescirocco.com>
To: "'Scirocco list'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:21 PM
Subject: BBS Wheels For Mars!


I just scored a set of 14" BBS wheels for my '81 S...

http://thescirocco.com/images/BBSfromYellowZonker.jpg

They have Pirelli 600 tires in 205/55/14 on them now, and I'm going with a
set of 195/55/14's.

That's the definition of old school <3. Nice score big guy. =o)


~Matt/RJ
1985 Audi Coupe GT - The Evil Car
"I know God loves me. He gave me an Audi!"
http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=rjtremor




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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 20:09:18 -0500 (EST)
From: "C Boyko" <roccit_53@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Subject: PNs for back latch gaskets
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Message-ID:
	<2047.216.208.50.148.1104887358.squirrel@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

I'm really an idiot. I accidentally deleted the PNs for the Mk1 gaskets
for around the hatch locks, if someone could forward that post to me
again, I'd be much appreciative. Thanks.


Cathy
1999 TDI New Beetle
1987 2L 16V Scirocco
1979 1.8L 10:1 8V
"Deja moo- the feeling you've heard this bull before"



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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 20:29:00 -0500
From: Mike Smith <smithma7@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: PNs for back latch gaskets
To: C Boyko <roccit_53@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Message-ID: <d2a8ac31050104172928b7c751@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

If you are refering to the thread from the 31st of December, then
here's the post with number from Mr. Utley:

To the fella that tore up the seal for his lock cylinders...  They
are available by >themselves, for under 2.00 apiece...  111-837-227-B,
same either side...

I thought you might like to know...

David

HTH.  Not sure it that applies to hatch locks, but I would be
surprised if it didn't.

--
Mike
'86 red 16v (Red 5)


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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 20:32:17 -0500 (EST)
From: "C Boyko" <roccit_53@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Subject: Re: PNs for back latch gaskets
To: "Mike Smith" <smithma7@gmail.com>
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Message-ID:
	<2064.216.208.50.148.1104888737.squirrel@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1


If you are refering to the thread from the 31st of December, then
here's the post with number from Mr. Utley:

To the fella that tore up the seal for his lock cylinders...  They
are available by >themselves, for under 2.00 apiece...  111-837-227-B,
same either side...

I thought you might like to know...

David

HTH.  Not sure it that applies to hatch locks, but I would be
surprised if it didn't.

--
Mike
'86 red 16v (Red 5)


It was actually the more recent thread from today, but I already got a
reply from Julie and have printed it so they can't slip out of my grasp
again. Sorry for the waste of bandwidth. Thanks!

Cathy
1999 TDI New Beetle
1987 2L 16V Scirocco
1979 1.8L 10:1 8V
"Deja moo- the feeling you've heard this bull before"



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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:27:59 -0800
From: "Larry Fry" <rocco16@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: this guy deserves a serious beatdown
To: "David Utley" <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>,	"Roger concha"
	<rogercv1@gmail.com>
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Message-ID: <004501c4f2ce$2ce868f0$71b96e45@mastershake>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"


Next, Dan will tell me that I was right about heavier flywheels increasing
mileage...  :)


Nope.  That won't ever happen.
:)
Larry



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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 19:06:41 -0800
From: Gordon Forbess <gforbess@attglobal.net>
Subject: Re: this guy deserves a serious beatdown
To: "David Utley" <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Message-ID: <hskmt0tjcs5mfnm77p30m865jto1rk1nkr@4ax.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:31:50 -0600, "David Utley"
<fahrvegnugen@cox.net> wrote:

Next, Dan will tell me that I was right about heavier flywheels increasing
mileage...  :)

I must have missed that one.  FWIW, Drake considered lightened
flywheels a waste of money.   Not bad.. just no net performance gain.
I got the physics lecture from Robert Collins when I asked about it
and those laws haven't been changed in last 20 years, have they? :-)
Gordon
75 Scirocco/Drake 1.9 8V
http://pws.prserv.net/scirocco/scirocco.htm


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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:07:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Mk1 Hatch filling with water (Cathy, P/N's inside)
To: "Scirocco.org list" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>,  Cathy Boyko
	<losinit@usa.net>
Message-ID: <20050105030720.3498.qmail@web54209.mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

You mean this a'one???
HTH

Ron
--- Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com> wrote:
NLA?  Maybe not...

P/N for that gasket (MkI) is 531 827 527 and 527A.  impexfap shows them @ $2.33 each.

FWIW, the corresponding P/N for a MkII Scirocco is 161 827 527 ($3.43) and a Rabbit part is 361
827 527 ($1.13).

Wonder if any of the other models parts work on a MkI roc??

Thanks for the tips and replies,
Ron

--- C Boyko <roccit_53@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca> wrote:

> I just did this to the Cabby, the old rubber was dust-like. I'll do the
> headache next, and this is the sort of thing that might be worth looking
> at as our cars have more and more NLA parts. And speaking of which. On the
> MkI, what gasket with a modern PN will work around the hatch lock, Klaus
> really needs one too. What one member of the herd gets, they all get, you
> know? (or they throw hissy fits)
> > Cathy > > > I was having the same problem with my mk2 rocco. Turned out it was just
> > a rubber gasket that goes around the lock on the hatch. :(
> >
> > /miT
> > ______________
> > [ETvw.org]
> > Mk1 Cabriolet 2.0L
> > Mk2 Scirocco 16v
> >
> > * TagZilla 0.057 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org
> > Julie Macfarlane wrote:
> >
> >> Ron, I found that there are 2 plastic plugs along the sides of the
> >> rain gutter of the rear hatch. I sealed them by welding small tabs of
> >> metal.
> >> I did that 2 years ago and no more leaks!
> >> Try silicone and see if that helps.
> >> Good luck!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Julie Macfarlane
> >> "Its not just a car! Its an adventure!"
> >> 1981 MKI 2L 16v w 2Y
> >> Amsterdam NY
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > >

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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 20:07:51 -0800
From: T Berk <tberk@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: this guy deserves a serious beatdown
To: "list >> Scirocco email List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <41DB6817.8050000@sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

danws69@earthlink.net wrote:
Gee, I wonder why that thread got locked......


F*&%ck Vortex. Buncha pansies......




Dan Snow
2-damned-many




And then I opened a new thread with the exact same pictures in it so I could get some more griping in and it too got locked.


TBerk


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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 23:12:30 -0500
From: "Rick Kellner" <rfkellner@snet.net>
Subject: RE: RE: Power Steering Fluid
To: "'Scirocco List'" <scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <000001c4f2dc$ca1076a0$6501a8c0@kellnerhmypj1x>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Isn't Dextron III the universal (can be used in both older Ford and GM
transmissions) fluid now?  Has anyone used it in their cars power
steering?
Thanks, Rick.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Utley [mailto:fahrvegnugen@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 2:10 PM
To: RICHARD F KELLNER
Subject: Re: RE: Power Steering Fluid

Dexron is GM tranny fluid, among others.  I think they are now using
Dexron III.  Can you use any other fluid?  I would not know...  :-(

David

From: RICHARD F KELLNER <rfkellner@snet.net>
Date: 2005/01/04 Tue PM 12:01:49 EST
To: 'Scirocco List' <scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
Subject: RE: Power Steering Fluid

Is the Dextron II the Ford or GM version of ATF?  What about the new
ATF (universal) that is used in most transmissions now?  Can the
universal be used without causing problems?
Thanks, Rick.

Patrick Bureau <patrick.bureau@gmail.com> wrote:
DEXTRON II automatic transmission fluid is the recommended fluid for
this
pump. (see user manual of vehicle - but it was in 85)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-
> bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Rick Kellner
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:36 AM
> To: 'Scirocco List'
> Subject: RE: Power Steering Fluid
> > Al, is the power steering fluid that is typically available at a
FLAPS
> acceptable or does VW require a special fluid?
> Thanks, Rick.
> > -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Allyn
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 6:45 PM
> To: Brad Sterling; Scirocco List
> Subject: Re: Power Steering Fluid
> > a whining pump will not be corrected by any fluid changes. once they
get
> to
> the whining point, they will stay that way until replaced. the plus
side
> > here is that i've never seen one grenade or anything drastic like
that.
> that all said, it always helps to periodically change out the power
> steering
> fluid, as its an unfiltered system. there is this orange bottle
stuff
> i've
> used. its marketed as a stop leak, but it does so by
softening/expanding
> old
> seals. i've had this work near-magic on a leaking rack (going strong
> still
> for 2+ years, and i still have torn boots - still no leakage).
> Al
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Sterling" > To: "Scirocco List" > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 12:21 PM
> Subject: Power Steering Fluid
> > > > The power steering pump on my 16v is starting to make some noise
like
> it's
> > low on fluid. Since I've basically done nothing with this unit
sine
> I've
> > had to car, I think a flush and change of fluid is in order. Any
> > suggestions on a flush agent and/or fluid? TIA.
> >
> > -Brad
> > '86 Scirocco 16v
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:35:56 -0500 (EST)
From: "Sandor" <sandor@vwot.org>
Subject: mk1 lowering spring caps...for Bilstein Sports
To: <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Cc: list@vwot.org
Message-ID:
	<4055.69.158.110.204.1104903356.squirrel@www.lunaticfringe.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

So I have a set of Bilstein Sports with H&R sport springs on the front of
my mk1 jetta and I wanna go a bit lower, and I've seen some talk about
these as a decent way to lower the front on mk2 golfs but not so much with
mk1's.  So far there are two types that alwasy get mentioned:
a) JOM, cheap ones for $45CDN or
b) the ABD billet alloy ones for over $200 CDN...ouch!
But on the poortex I've read some reports that some of these are not
really compatible with fat strut rod type struts like the Bilstein
Sports...anybody here running either type?
Any feedback?

cheers
sandor
83 jetta
81 S




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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:55:22 -0500
From: "Peter" <peter@thescirocco.com>
Subject: RE: mk1 lowering spring caps...for Bilstein Sports
To: "'Sandor'" <sandor@vwot.org>, <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Cc: list@vwot.org
Message-ID: <200501050057703.SM01672@thedellou812>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I installed Bonrath lowering caps on Rich Deede's Scirocco w/Bilsteins, and
they fit fine.

Do you have pics of the cheapies?

Peter
http://thescirocco.com/


-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Sandor
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:36 AM
To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Cc: list@vwot.org
Subject: mk1 lowering spring caps...for Bilstein Sports

So I have a set of Bilstein Sports with H&R sport springs on the front of
my mk1 jetta and I wanna go a bit lower, and I've seen some talk about
these as a decent way to lower the front on mk2 golfs but not so much with
mk1's.  So far there are two types that alwasy get mentioned:
a) JOM, cheap ones for $45CDN or
b) the ABD billet alloy ones for over $200 CDN...ouch!
But on the poortex I've read some reports that some of these are not
really compatible with fat strut rod type struts like the Bilstein
Sports...anybody here running either type?
Any feedback?

cheers
sandor
83 jetta
81 S







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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 01:52:11 -0500
From: "Mark F." <mk1mark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: mk1 lowering spring caps...for Bilstein Sports
To: peter@thescirocco.com
Cc: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Message-ID: <c047f1910501042252a7f0ae1@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:55:22 -0500, Peter <peter@thescirocco.com> wrote:
I installed Bonrath lowering caps on Rich Deede's Scirocco w/Bilsteins, and
they fit fine.



Hmmm, well seeing as Sandor recently dragged Rich's car up to the GWN
(w/ MardakDolly Ver. 1.1), I'd say his quest to scrape the ground is
closer (and cheaper) than he thought!  :)

What exactly are these things?  Are you guys talking about the Bonrath
strut bearings ("semi-copy" of the early OEM rebuildable bearings)
that lower the car about 1 1/4"?

Later,

Mark.
75
80 S
90 Audi Coupe Quattro - 10vt


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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 02:01:28 -0500
From: "Peter" <peter@thescirocco.com>
Subject: RE: mk1 lowering spring caps...for Bilstein Sports
To: "'Mark F.'" <mk1mark@gmail.com>
Cc: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Message-ID: <200501050203515.SM01672@thedellou812>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

No, they just replace the small top spring hats, (that go between the strut
mount and spring) and they have less of a profile.

Peter
http://thescirocco.com/


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark F. [mailto:mk1mark@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:52 AM
To: peter@thescirocco.com
Cc: Sandor; Scirocco-l@scirocco.org; list@vwot.org
Subject: Re: mk1 lowering spring caps...for Bilstein Sports

On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:55:22 -0500, Peter <peter@thescirocco.com> wrote:
I installed Bonrath lowering caps on Rich Deede's Scirocco w/Bilsteins,
and
they fit fine.



Hmmm, well seeing as Sandor recently dragged Rich's car up to the GWN
(w/ MardakDolly Ver. 1.1), I'd say his quest to scrape the ground is
closer (and cheaper) than he thought!  :)

What exactly are these things?  Are you guys talking about the Bonrath
strut bearings ("semi-copy" of the early OEM rebuildable bearings)
that lower the car about 1 1/4"?

Later,

Mark.
75
80 S
90 Audi Coupe Quattro - 10vt





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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 02:21:22 -0500
From: "Matthew H." <rjtremor@core.com>
Subject: Re: this guy deserves a serious beatdown
To: "T Berk" <tberk@sbcglobal.net>,        "list >> Scirocco email
	List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <005001c4f2f7$42449010$6e605dd8@Musclewuff>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

----- Original Message ----- From: "T Berk" <tberk@sbcglobal.net>
To: "list >> Scirocco email List" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: this guy deserves a serious beatdown


danws69@earthlink.net wrote:
> Gee, I wonder why that thread got locked......
>
>
> F*&%ck Vortex. Buncha pansies......
>
>
>
>
> Dan Snow
> 2-damned-many
>



And then I opened a new thread with the exact same pictures in it so I
could get some more griping in and it too got locked.


So just flood the idiot's mailbox. It's only a Mk2 my furry ass. >=oP What a
loser.

It's funny, my first e-mail about this never got through...

~Matt




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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:24:30 -0700
From: "koabi" <koabi@mcleodusa.net>
Subject: WTB engine bracket (attempt 2)
To: "'Scirocco List'" <scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <000001c4f2f7$9a3e13e0$0100a8c0@athlonxp>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

I need the bracket that holds the top portion AC/Alt bracket - it's for
a 9A but I think most engines with AC will have the same bracket.

http://www.starshadow.com/~koabi/photos/sciroccoproject/0410119aside.JPG

you can see where the pass side motor mount bracket mounted.  The two
holes on the right side is where the bracket I need is (it also is
connected to the silver AC/ALT bracket).

the PN seems to be 049 902 143o but I can barely read it so that may not
be correct.

Please send a reply to koabi@email.arizona.edu if you can help

Thanks,
Koabi




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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:09:43 -0800
From: "Shannon" <16volt@scirocco16v.com>
Subject: RE: Are these Shannon's wheel's?
To: "'Tonee Northam'" <pb3vr6@yahoo.com>,	"'Don Walter'"
	<dswalterwi@gmail.com>,	"'Scirocco List'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1104948001.14104.scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I checked those out and they are not mine.
Thanks for keeping your eyes open guys.

Shannon
www.scirocco16v.com
Now STOLEN http://www.scirocco16v.com/stolen.htm




-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Tonee Northam
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 5:02 PM
To: Don Walter; Scirocco List
Subject: Re: Are these Shannon's wheel's?

Somebody really needs the money, aren't them 3-4 hundred new.

Don Walter <dswalterwi@gmail.com>
wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=79444829
25&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1

--
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1986 1.8 16V Black Scirocco
1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (under repair)
1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
1971 Karman Ghia (sold)
1969 Karman Ghia (sold)
1969 Beetle (sold)

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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:12:55 -0800
From: "Shannon" <16volt@scirocco16v.com>
Subject: 	RE: [SPAM] Re: Now: SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (was Re: It's
	legal now)
To: "'Ron Pieper'" <rapieper@yahoo.com>,	"'Scirocco list'"
	<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <mailman.1.1104948001.14104.scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Agreed.

Shannon
www.scirocco16v.com
Now STOLEN http://www.scirocco16v.com/stolen.htm




-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Ron Pieper
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 5:57 AM
To: Scirocco list
Subject: [SPAM] Re: Now: SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (was Re: It's legal now)

--- "Mark F." <mk1mark@gmail.com> wrote:
Well my (and others') subtle hints haven't worked, so:
WTF!!!!!  WOULD YOU GUYS SHUT THE HELL
UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agreed.


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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 03:15:03 -0500
From: "Mark F." <mk1mark@gmail.com>
Subject: Anyone need performance engine work done?
To: list <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <c047f191050105001512f75d10@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

I just got back from a mad dash to Ohio and back to pick up a bunch of
parts and race rubber (thanks Anson!) and met a very cool machinist in
Tiffin. This guy knows his stuff, especially about VWs and Audis... I spent a good part of the afternoon picking his brain, and left his
shop a smarter man!  :)

He has a small, but fully equipped shop, with some really nice, trick
stuff.  He's a beta tester for Audie Technology (flowbench and other
computer based tools - <http://www.audietech.com/>), and has the
capability to do more tests on a head than I even knew existed!  He
can measure swirl, velocity, and even map the flows within each port,
among others. Here's a pic of his NICE flowbench: <http://www.audietech.com/FpPics.htm>

It's rare to meet an automotive machinist that's also computer
literate - never mind someone who knows how to get power out of a
VW/Audi!  I learned a lot from him, and would highly recommend his
shop to anyone looking to get general machining, porting/polishing (w/
high tech flowbench test & printout) or race engine buildups to the
very edge of what the rulebook allows...  He can also convert VW/Audi
hydraulic heads to solid lifters, and for you diesel geeks (ahem,
Drew) he does up heads that'll increase performance.  His name is John
Aller, and his shop is Air Cooled Engines Plus - 286 2nd Avenue,
Tiffin, OH 44883  (419) 443-8987.  Tell him Mk1Mark sent ya!

Later,

Mark.
75
80 S
90 Audi Coupe Quattro - 10vt


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Message: 29
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:15:58 -0800
From: "Shannon" <16volt@scirocco16v.com>
Subject: RE: Question for the Boosted guys....
To: "'Allyn'" <amalventano1@tds.net>,	"'David Winchell'"
	<xavsbud@gmail.com>,	"'Scirocco-l@scirocco.org'"
	<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <mailman.2.1104948001.14104.scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Agreed.

I would check both the WG and the turbo. Lock your WG closed and take it for
a VERY careful drive up the street.
Shannon
www.scirocco16v.com
Now STOLEN http://www.scirocco16v.com/stolen.htm




-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Allyn
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 1:07 PM
To: David Winchell; Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: Question for the Boosted guys....

that would have to be a hell of an exhaust leak to get no boost at all. so bad that it would sound like straight exhaust in the engine bay - even at idle.
wastegate may be stuck open.
Al

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Winchell" <xavsbud@gmail.com>
To: "Scirocco-l@scirocco.org" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 2:35 PM
Subject: Question for the Boosted guys....


Ok, I have a problem that I want to verify it is what I think it is.

Back Ground: This is a Corrado G60 Motor (in a Rocc) the g-lader was
swapped for a Turbo.

The problem: I have an exhaust manifold gasket leak that has gotten worse.

The question: As of right now I am getting no boost.  Is it that the
leak at the manifold/head is causing enough back pressure that the
turbo is not spooling? Or do I have another problem that I need to be
looking into?

Any help and suggestions would be great.

TAI for your help,

Dave

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'87 Scirocco 2.0L 16V
'86 Scirocco
'84 Scirocco
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Message: 30
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 00:18:59 -0800
From: "Shannon" <16volt@scirocco16v.com>
Subject: RE: this guy deserves a serious beatdown
To: "'David Utley'" <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>,	"'Larry Fry'"
	<rocco16@sbcglobal.net>,	"'Roger concha'" <rogercv1@gmail.com>
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Message-ID: <mailman.3.1104948001.14104.scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Seriously, it's a shell. It would cost more in time trying to dump it off to
someone than what it would be worth to give it away.
Shannon
www.scirocco16v.com
Now STOLEN http://www.scirocco16v.com/stolen.htm




-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of David Utley
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:32 AM
To: Larry Fry; Roger concha
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: RE: this guy deserves a serious beatdown

Good grief, you and I agree?

Next, Dan will tell me that I was right about heavier flywheels increasing
mileage...  :)

David

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Fry [mailto:rocco16@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 8:25 PM
To: fahrvegnugen@cox.net; Roger concha
Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: this guy deserves a serious beatdown


it is his property to do what he wills with it.


Yep, ya' can't argue with that....
Larry


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Message: 31
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 23:19:18 -0700
From: "koabi" <koabi@mcleodusa.net>
Subject: WTB engine bracket
To: "'Scirocco List'" <scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <000001c4f2ee$7e6f2d10$0100a8c0@athlonxp>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I need the bracket that holds the top portion AC/Alt bracket - it's for
a 9A but I think most engines with AC will have the same bracket.

http://www.starshadow.com/~koabi/photos/sciroccoproject/0410119aside.JPG

you can see where the pass side motor mount bracket mounted.  The two
holes on the right side is where the bracket I need is (it also is
connected to the silver AC/ALT bracket).

the PN seems to be 049 902 143o but I can barely read it so that may not
be correct.

Please send a reply to koabi@email.arizona.edu if you can help

Thanks,
Koabi



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Message: 32
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 12:21:13 +0000
From: "Julie Macfarlane" <juliemac57@hotmail.com>
Subject: Aerodymanic studies
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Message-ID: <BAY15-F2931B99BF1392BF0DEC3BFDD920@phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed

Any one ever see an air flow analysis of the MKI? You know where it shows the air flow pattern over the top of the car?
I would love to see it if it is available.

Or if some one has the software? (Pleeeeze)

Julie Macfarlane
"Its not just a car! Its an adventure!"
1981 MKI 2L 16v w 2Y
Amsterdam NY




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Message: 33
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:25:01 -0500
From: "Rick Kellner" <rfkellner@snet.net>
Subject: 16V fuel rail link
To: "'Scirocco List'" <scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <000501c4f321$97aaccc0$6501a8c0@kellnerhmypj1x>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Here is a vortex link to a 16v fuel rail.  It may be of interest to
anyone thinking about running a different engine/fuel management system
(i.e. MegaSquirt).
Rick.


http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1693239



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Message: 34
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 06:25:42 -0600
From: "Patrick Bureau" <patrick.bureau@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: Power Steering Fluid
To: "'Allyn'" <amalventano1@tds.net>,	"'Brad Sterling'"
	<bgsterling@bluebottle.com>,	"'Scirocco List'"
	<scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
Message-ID: <41dbdcd5.6876c5cb.3140.592a@smtp.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;

SCI-85-4-22-105.00 on ETKA Item 7H PN# 431-422-385-A

-----Original Message-----
From: Allyn [mailto:amalventano1@tds.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:39 PM
To: Patrick Bureau; 'Brad Sterling'; 'Scirocco List'
Subject: Re: Power Steering Fluid

> Actually I agree with all , except there is a FILTER in the return
bottle,
> undo the black cap (unscrews from bottle) remove carefully the plate and
> the
> filter is at the bottom.. and last time I changed my PS pump I changed
the
> filter and VW had the part in stock still...
>
> Lmk if you need the PN#

sweet, i had no idea. got that part number handy?
Al



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Message: 35
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 06:28:02 -0600
From: "Patrick Bureau" <patrick.bureau@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: BBS Wheels For Mars!
To: <peter@thescirocco.com>,	"'Scirocco list'"
	<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
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Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice~!

-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-
bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:22 PM
To: 'Scirocco list'
Subject: BBS Wheels For Mars!

I just scored a set of 14" BBS wheels for my '81 S...

http://thescirocco.com/images/BBSfromYellowZonker.jpg

They have Pirelli 600 tires in 205/55/14 on them now, and I'm going with a
set of 195/55/14's.

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Message: 36
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 07:26:50 -0600
From: "Brian Wagner" <dagnamit@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: RE: Power Steering Fluid
To: "'Rick Kellner'" <rfkellner@snet.net>,	"'Scirocco List'"
	<scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
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Yes in the Scirocco Dexron/Mercron or better known as dex 3 is a common
replacement for our units. To get rid of whine and leaks put in a bottle of
Lucas PS conditioner after flushing the system.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Rick Kellner
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:13 PM
To: 'Scirocco List'
Subject: RE: RE: Power Steering Fluid

Isn't Dextron III the universal (can be used in both older Ford and GM
transmissions) fluid now?  Has anyone used it in their cars power
steering?
Thanks, Rick.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Utley [mailto:fahrvegnugen@cox.net] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 2:10 PM
To: RICHARD F KELLNER
Subject: Re: RE: Power Steering Fluid

Dexron is GM tranny fluid, among others.  I think they are now using
Dexron III.  Can you use any other fluid?  I would not know...  :-(

David

From: RICHARD F KELLNER <rfkellner@snet.net>
Date: 2005/01/04 Tue PM 12:01:49 EST
To: 'Scirocco List' <scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
Subject: RE: Power Steering Fluid

Is the Dextron II the Ford or GM version of ATF?  What about the new
ATF (universal) that is used in most transmissions now?  Can the
universal be used without causing problems?
Thanks, Rick.

Patrick Bureau <patrick.bureau@gmail.com> wrote:
DEXTRON II automatic transmission fluid is the recommended fluid for
this
pump. (see user manual of vehicle - but it was in 85)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org [mailto:scirocco-l-
> bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Rick Kellner
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 5:36 AM
> To: 'Scirocco List'
> Subject: RE: Power Steering Fluid
> > Al, is the power steering fluid that is typically available at a
FLAPS
> acceptable or does VW require a special fluid?
> Thanks, Rick.
> > -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Allyn
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 6:45 PM
> To: Brad Sterling; Scirocco List
> Subject: Re: Power Steering Fluid
> > a whining pump will not be corrected by any fluid changes. once they
get
> to
> the whining point, they will stay that way until replaced. the plus
side
> > here is that i've never seen one grenade or anything drastic like
that.
> that all said, it always helps to periodically change out the power
> steering
> fluid, as its an unfiltered system. there is this orange bottle
stuff
> i've
> used. its marketed as a stop leak, but it does so by
softening/expanding
> old
> seals. i've had this work near-magic on a leaking rack (going strong
> still
> for 2+ years, and i still have torn boots - still no leakage).
> Al
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brad Sterling" > To: "Scirocco List" > Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 12:21 PM
> Subject: Power Steering Fluid
> > > > The power steering pump on my 16v is starting to make some noise
like
> it's
> > low on fluid. Since I've basically done nothing with this unit
sine
> I've
> > had to car, I think a flush and change of fluid is in order. Any
> > suggestions on a flush agent and/or fluid? TIA.
> >
> > -Brad
> > '86 Scirocco 16v
> >
> >
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Message: 37
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 09:31:27 -0500
From: "Nathan Lowe" <nathanlowe@charter.net>
Subject: will start, but won't stay running
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My car (a '79 w/ 2.0 aba swap) is having a problem staying running. I can start it fine, but once I turn the key from the "start" to "run" position it dies. It was doing this a few months ago but stopped on its own. Now it's doing it again. The battery is fine and I just replaced the ignition switch trying to fix the problem, nothing is different. I'm stumped as to where to go next with this? Any ideas what it could be and how I could check that? I'm a novice here so please be kind in your explinations :)

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This guy built his entire car in solidworks, I'm not sure what software was being used but on page 6 he talks about cfd numbers and whatnot.

Shoot him an e-mail and he should tell you what he was using.

Give it a squint, it's one of the most exciting profects I have ever seen.

http://dpcars.net/

Anson

Julie Macfarlane <juliemac57@hotmail.com> wrote:
Any one ever see an air flow analysis of the MKI? You know where it shows the air flow pattern over the top of the car?
I would love to see it if it is available.

Or if some one has the software? (Pleeeeze)

Julie Macfarlane
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And then I opened a new thread with the exact same pictures in it so I could get some more griping in and it too got locked.


TBerk

LOL...  I am sure you understand why...  ;-)

David

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Message: 38
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 9:53:01 -0500
From: David Utley <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>
Subject: Re: mk1 lowering spring caps...for Bilstein Sports
To: "Sandor" <sandor@vwot.org>
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From: "Sandor" <sandor@vwot.org>
Date: 2005/01/05 Wed AM 12:35:56 EST
To: <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
CC: list@vwot.org
Subject: mk1 lowering spring caps...for Bilstein Sports

So I have a set of Bilstein Sports with H&R sport springs on the front of
my mk1 jetta and I wanna go a bit lower, and I've seen some talk about
these as a decent way to lower the front on mk2 golfs but not so much with
mk1's.  So far there are two types that alwasy get mentioned:
a) JOM, cheap ones for $45CDN or
b) the ABD billet alloy ones for over $200 CDN...ouch!
But on the poortex I've read some reports that some of these are not
really compatible with fat strut rod type struts like the Bilstein
Sports...anybody here running either type?
Any feedback?

cheers
sandor
83 jetta
81 S


IIRC, the piston is much larger on the Bilstein.  Perhaps someone has used the strut bearings that are just like the early ones except they lower the car 10-15mm (IIRC)?  That may be the JOM ones, I don't know...

As usual, I am interested in helping and don't have enough info...  :-(

David

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Message: 39
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:15:26 -0500
From: David Utley <fahrvegnugen@cox.net>
Subject: Re: will start, but won't stay running
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From: "Nathan Lowe" <nathanlowe@charter.net>
Date: 2005/01/05 Wed AM 09:31:27 EST
To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Subject: will start, but won't stay running

My car (a '79 w/ 2.0 aba swap) is having a problem staying running. I can start it fine, but once I turn the key from the "start" to "run" position it dies. It was doing this a few months ago but stopped on its own. Now it's doing it again. The battery is fine and I just replaced the ignition switch trying to fix the problem, nothing is different. I'm stumped as to where to go next with this? Any ideas what it could be and how I could check that? I'm a novice here so please be kind in your explinations :)

Nathan

Not likely, but did you check to see if the wires connected at the coil were tight?

Just a thought.  I occassionally have to re-crimp the connections here and there.

G/L
David

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Message: 40
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:37:48 -0500
From: "Marc Getty" <marc@getty.net>
Subject: RE: Aerodymanic studies
To: "'Anson Clement'" <ansonivan@yahoo.com>,	"'Julie Macfarlane'"
	<juliemac57@hotmail.com>,	<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
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I love this guy's site! What a fucking Ben Harder wanna-be this guy is! ;-)

-Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of Anson Clement
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:42 AM
To: Julie Macfarlane; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: Aerodymanic studies

This guy built his entire car in solidworks, I'm not sure what software was
being used but on page 6 he talks about cfd numbers and whatnot.

Shoot him an e-mail and he should tell you what he was using.

Give it a squint, it's one of the most exciting profects I have ever seen.

http://dpcars.net/

Anson

Julie Macfarlane <juliemac57@hotmail.com> wrote:
Any one ever see an air flow analysis of the MKI? You know where it shows the air flow pattern over the top of the car?
I would love to see it if it is available.

Or if some one has the software? (Pleeeeze)

Julie Macfarlane
"Its not just a car! Its an adventure!"
1981 MKI 2L 16v w 2Y
Amsterdam NY



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Message: 41
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:15:35 -0800
From: "Brad Sterling" <bgsterling@bluebottle.com>
Subject: RE: Power Steering Fluid
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<snip Brian>
To get rid of whine and leaks put in a bottle of
Lucas PS conditioner after flushing the system.
<end snip>

Lots of good banter.  Thanks, guys.  Is there a recommended flushing agent?

-Brad
'86 Scirocco 16v



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Message: 42
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:36:54 -0800
From: "cory" <corylang@dccnet.com>
Subject: Re: Question for the Boosted guys....
To: "David L. Winchell, II" <davidwinchell2@sprynet.com>,
	"Scirocco-l@scirocco.org" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
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Unless your exhaust manifold has fallen off, you will get some boost. It may
be very little, and will be very late in the rpm range, but you will get
something.

Check the waste gate (as suggested prior) or find the issue with the exahust
man gasket.

Exhaust man gaskets don't usually fail (from my personal experience), unless
there is an issue like exsessive heat.

1st make sure it is the gasket leaking and not a cracked/blown manifold.
That is usually what happens.  Is it a cast mani or a tubular welded one?
The casts usually last longer, but many people go with the tube weld for
weight and easier design (for the diy that is), but they are not as durable
I found.

I have had 2 tube manifolds break.  They crack first and then if you keep
running then the crack ends up shearing the tube and you basically have a
free flow exaust :)  This might cause no boost if the mani is completely
broken on one of the exaust runners.

If the manifold is fine, then check the turbo.  If the turbo has been over
heated and the bearings are going, it will eventually sieze.  It usually
starts with a spooling problem and a whining noise (but not always noise
depending on your turbo), the extra drag cause by the bad bearings will
cause back pressure.  The extra pressure and extream heat usually causes the
gaskets to fail.  Eventurally, the turbo will not spin and this will
definitely cause no boost :(     If you have to replace your exaust gasket ,
might as well disconnect the turbo and check the cart. to make sure the fins
are spinning freely and/or your don't have shaft play.


----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Winchell, II" <davidwinchell2@sprynet.com>
To: "Dan Bubb" <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com>; "David Winchell" <xavsbud@gmail.com>;
"Scirocco-l@scirocco.org" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: Question for the Boosted guys....


The leak is really bad.  It is VERY loud.  I was getting boost up until
today.  I am not hearing any spooling or the waste gate opening.  I am new
to the turbo, so not sure what noises I should be hearing.  I am not
hearing
any of the ones I was hearing though. I run up to about 6500 rpm and no
extra power.

Thanks,

Dave

David L. Winchell, II
Winchell Appraisal Service
(843) 762-9577 (Phone)
(843) 406-1356 (Fax)
DavidWinchell2@sprynet.com

-----Original Message-----
From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Dan Bubb
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 2:52 PM
To: David Winchell; Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: Question for the Boosted guys....


If the leak is before the turbo then it's letting out the pressure needed
to
drive the turbo.
I'm suprised you're getting no boost though.
When this happened to my nephew's car the boost was really laggy, but it
would get up to full boost
at higher RPM.
It's either a really big leak or something else is wrong.
Dan



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Message: 43
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 08:40:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Neptuno <neptunonc@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Mk1 Hatch filling with water (Cathy, P/N's
	inside)
To: Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com>,  "Scirocco.org list"
	<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>, Cathy Boyko <losinit@usa.net>
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I got this same item: http://www.impexfap.com/partlist.cfm from My neighbour wo is also a member of my local VW club and works at impex I would Highly suggest dropping him an Email and telling him about any of your needs. He is quick and I know that he will appreciate the business. Here is part of an email he sent to us : Also I'm offering a discount on new parts for your club members. e-mail joey@impexfap.com or call 1-800-736-3550. Ask for Joey and mention chesapeake dubs and I'll hook you up!

I would sugest mentioning that you know me Tony from Chesapeake Dubs and see if he will give you some type of discount.

HTH
El Tony




Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com> wrote:
You mean this a'one???
HTH

Ron
--- Ron Pieper wrote:
NLA? Maybe not...

P/N for that gasket (MkI) is 531 827 527 and 527A. impexfap shows them @ $2.33 each.

FWIW, the corresponding P/N for a MkII Scirocco is 161 827 527 ($3.43) and a Rabbit part is 361
827 527 ($1.13).

Wonder if any of the other models parts work on a MkI roc??

Thanks for the tips and replies,
Ron

--- C Boyko wrote:

> I just did this to the Cabby, the old rubber was dust-like. I'll do the
> headache next, and this is the sort of thing that might be worth looking
> at as our cars have more and more NLA parts. And speaking of which. On the
> MkI, what gasket with a modern PN will work around the hatch lock, Klaus
> really needs one too. What one member of the herd gets, they all get, you
> know? (or they throw hissy fits)
> > Cathy > > > I was having the same problem with my mk2 rocco. Turned out it was just
> > a rubber gasket that goes around the lock on the hatch. :(
> >
> > /miT
> > ______________
> > [ETvw.org]
> > Mk1 Cabriolet 2.0L
> > Mk2 Scirocco 16v
> >
> > * TagZilla 0.057 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org
> > Julie Macfarlane wrote:
> >
> >> Ron, I found that there are 2 plastic plugs along the sides of the
> >> rain gutter of the rear hatch. I sealed them by welding small tabs of
> >> metal.
> >> I did that 2 years ago and no more leaks!
> >> Try silicone and see if that helps.
> >> Good luck!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Julie Macfarlane
> >> "Its not just a car! Its an adventure!"
> >> 1981 MKI 2L 16v w 2Y
> >> Amsterdam NY
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > >

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