90mm vs 100mm - that is the question

[peter at thescirocco.com (Peter)]

David,

I just checked ETKA, and they only have one part no. for each hub carrier,
for '85, you can check each year up to '89 , if you want, but they all
accept 100mm CV's. ;)
'85 A2 Left 191 407 255 B and the right one is 191 407 256 B.

The early A2's had hub carriers with built in brake carriers, so you are
locked into to 9.4" rotors.

Late A2, A3 4 cyl, and '90-93 B3, not sure about B4, but probably, have hub
carriers with threaded holes for the brake carrier, just like an A1. The
10.1" carriers from these cars will not fit the A1 hub carriers, but you can
still use the calipers, rotors, and pads.

If anyone wants to run A2 hub carriers, they should get the late A2, with
the larger ball-joint and larger bearing.

> I have learned that this is not true.  A GTI might have the larger-holed
> spindles, but not all of them do.  
They all went to the larger holed
> spindles in either 88 or 89.  If you find a Golf with a VIN of 3, it is
made
> in Mexico, and it will have the larger-holed spindle.
>
> David

I don't know about that, ETKA makes no mention of this and they have the
built in brake carriers, making them almost useless.

Peter
http://thescirocco.com/

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-----Original Message-----
From: David Utley [mailto:fahrvergnugen@cox.net] 

> > > The CV bolts are the same, but the lock plates are
> > > different.
> > >
> > > The only difference on the spindles, is that the
> > > inside lip, where the outer
> > > stub makes contact, and they can easily be opened up
> > > to accept the 100mm
> > > CV's.
> > >
> > > I usually pull them from Mk.2's, or buy them cheap.
> >
> >
> > So Peter, you're saying a MK2 should not have
> > clearance issues at the spindle for a 100mm joint, correct?
> >
> > All '85, and up, [A1's] came with 100mm CV's.
> >
>
> I have learned that this is not true.  A GTI might have the larger-holed
> spindles, but not all of them do.  They all went to the larger holed
> spindles in either 88 or 89.  If you find a Golf with a VIN of 3, it is
made
> in Mexico, and it will have the larger-holed spindle.
>
> David
>
> Did you miss the A1?
>
> "All '85, and up, [A1's] came with 100mm CV's."
>

I guess so, indeed they did not come with 100mm.

> All the A2's I've seen, have accepted 100mm CV's.
>
> Peter
>

No flammage intended, Peter.  :-)

  I was looking into getting a set of A2 spindles to put on my A1 GTI
because the A2s have their steering arms (the part that accepts the
tie-rod?) higher up.  This allows a lowered car to have its' steering arms
at a more desirable location, parallel with the ground.  I did some
reasearch, and WackyWabbitRacer as well as Racer X helped with that
information.  I trst their experience, as they have both been in the SCCA
scene for a good while, and are known sources for good information.  I
regret that I have only confirmed their information with what I have found
on ETKA, and have not seen this in person.  Any interested parties should
bear this in mind if you begin to look into this seriously...

David