What's the fastest can ever take your Scirocco? - more numbers

[rocco16v at netzero.net (L F)]

Aaron,
  And, apparently, you know far more about special relativity than I do!
(i.e. after doing some more research, I found out I know far less than I thought I did... most certainly less than you.)
Rock on, Aaron.

Larry
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Aaron 
  To: Scirocco Mailing List ; L F 
  Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 4:49 AM
  Subject: Re: What's the fastest can ever take your Scirocco? - more numbers


  Larry

  > Using AE's formula, can anyone tell me what the muzzle energy of a 180  
  > grain 30-06 bullet is? (I know the answer, it is 2913 foot-pounds.)  
  > Now, you use Einsteins's formula to calculate that same answer.

  Einsteinian physics are no replacement for Newtonian - they are in  
  addition. And, you're right - they're absolutely useless unless you're  
  an theoretical physicist, an astrophysicist, a nuclear physicist, or  
  captain Kirk

  > You can't. It won't work. There is something missing...can you tell  
  > me what it is?

  Yes - Newton!

  > His formula only works for something traveling at the speed of light.

  Not true. His formula works when you're trying to create a nuclear  
  explosion. His formula applies to all situations, but is only  
  measurable at high velocities. It is extreme physics - which admittedly  
  is not much use in relation to souping up cars.

  > 
  > Now then, can someone show me how his theory says that mass increases  
  > as speed increases, since his theory has speed being a constant? i.e.  
  > provides for no increase/decrease in speed (which I think was the  
  > original subject)

  Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to explain this - but look here:

  (http://www.btinternet.com/~j.doyle/SR/Emc2/ 
  Derive.htm#An%20Apparent%20Increase%20in%20Mass%20due%20to%20Speed)

  I'm sure that when (many years ago) a nerd taught me all about  
  relativity on the back of a napkin in a pub on a Friday night - it all  
  looked much more simple than the m=m0/(Square root of (1-v Squared / c  
  squared)) you'll find on this page... But suffice to say - this  
  equation is derived directly from e=mc2.

  Let me assure you that you know a lot more about sciroccos than I do  
  about special relativity


  > 
  > Larry
  > 
  > 

  Aaron in London


  > ----- Original Message -----
  >  From: Aaron
  > To: Scirocco Mailing List ; L F
  > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 5:09 PM
  > Subject: Re: What's the fastest can ever take your Scirocco? - more  
  > numbers
  >
  >
  > On 14 Mar 2004, at 00:52, L F wrote:
  >
  >
  > Okay, Aaron, tell me what, in E=MC2, the letters stand for.
  > I think you are calling "C" something different from what Albert said  
  > it stood for......
  > 
  >
  > e=mc2, written in words:
  >
  > energy = mass x ((the speed of light) Squared)
  >
  > All are expressed in SI units - ie. : Joules, kg, Meters per second -  
  > in that order.
  >
  > This what Einstein meant when he first wrote this equation - and  
  > that's how this equation has been interpreted ever since.
  >
  > All the best
  >
  > Aaron in London
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