Semi O/T: Got a pickup with 2.0 16V, do I need Motronic?

[mr.utility at highstream.net (David Utley)]

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Quoting Allyn <amalventano@sc.rr.com>:

> > If so, look
> > at the top of the charts where it describes 50/50, the pressure is at 1
> > atmostphere, plus a 15lb cap.  Look at NPG, it is at 1 atmostphere, and no
> > pressure on the cap...  If the low specific heat value bothers you, you
> can
> > run a 7 lb cap as I do.
> 
> well, ok, i get the fact that it runs at very low pressure, but the pressure
> has minimal effect on the heat capacity of the water / glycol / whatever.
> 
 My temps will rise if I am sitting, but if I am on the road, temps read 
lower, consistently...  As to the pressure not affecting boiling point, this 
is not true.  The increased pressure increases the temp by which it boils.  
When water boils, it is trying to create pressure.  If the solution boiling 
has a greater pressure than atmostpheric, it will not boil until it reaches 
such a point that the boiling is greater than the pressure put upon it.  In 
short, an unpressurized solution will boil faster than an unpressurized 
solution, all things being equal...

> > I actually did that because you can smell it all the
> > time, like Belgian waffles, sickly sweet smell.
> 
> mmm waffles.
> 
> > Now, I have no idea what
> > specific heat mine exhibits, and I do know that the heat rises pretty
> steadily
> > if I sit a -long- period of time idling (20 mins)....
> 
> can you give me some oil timp figures? (im assuming you have the gauge).
> 
> > Localized boiling is virtually eliminated
> 
> my hunch was that the gains from killing the boiling would be offset by the
> higher running temps. you appear to have running proof to the contrary.
> 
> > HTH,
> >   David Utley
> 
> it does... i'm starting to want to swing towards using this stuff.
> 
> p.s. how much does this stuff cost, anyhow?
> Al
> 
> 
  Oil temps WILL suffer if you keep the factory, stupid, oil heater in place, 
that is one thing I should have mentioned.  I have a Euro cooler set up on 
mine, and the 2.0 16V pickup will get the same treatment.  It is a must to run 
this.  Oil temps suprisingly did not rise once I got the Euro cooler on 
there...  Sitting, in all weather, the highest oil temp I ever see is just 
over 100 C, is  the guage is correct :-)....  

  A few other selling points on this stuff...  IF you run a no pressure 
system, or a lowered pressure system, you reduce the pressure on your hoses.  
If you do away with water altogether (as this does), you will increase the 
life of the pump (that is always running in an oil solution).  Corrosion will 
be a thing of the past.  It also appears that this stuff is a lifetime coolant 
as well, as fallout is reduced to nearly nil.  Fallout is where the useful 
chemicals within the coolant 'fall-out' and no longer do what they were 
intended...

  Since I was trying to sell you on a few other details about this stuff, it 
must be expensive.  It is, 25.00 a gallon.  I forget how many my car took, 
luckily a good friend is the only representative for OK, so I get it much 
cheaper...  If there is interest, I will ask him if we can give the list a 
discount.  How much was that other company selling for?  Nuclear pineapple, 
what was it?  :-)




David Utley
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