Thanks to all for the injector cleaning help

[rocco16v at netzero.net (L F)]

David,
  So what if there's fire "all the way to the torch"?
There is fire all the way to my torch every time I light it off....
:)

Larry
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Utley 
  To: Don Walter 
  Cc: 'Scirocco-l' 
  Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 6:46 AM
  Subject: RE: Thanks to all for the injector cleaning help


  That might have been me...  

    When I lived in Cali., a fella I knew operated a sniffer station, and so he 
  had to do involved work on emissions equipment, which included vacuum leaks...

    What he did was to use a 'Bernz-o-matic' torch, and a long piece of clear 
  plastic hose...  Attatched the hose to the torch, and had the torch -just- 
  cracked open, and about 10-15 foot away from the vehicle...  -IF- there is a 
  fire, the clear hose will melt and lessen the chances of getting a flash all 
  the way to the torch.  He said it was the most effective thing he had found to 
  find leaks:  Carb cleaner can cool the intake which can increase air density 
  and therefore increase the idle with none of it actually burning...

    Don's right, I have not had to use this yet.  However, when it comes to 
  setting the knob on the torch, I would take the hose over to the intake 
  snorkel and see how much of an increase in throttle there is when the engine 
  gets a full whiff of the gas, and adjust accordingly...

  HTH

  David Utley

  Quoting Don Walter <dswalterwi@earthlink.net>:

  > Someone else had a suggestion on locating vacum leaks, I think it was
  > propane?  But they never said how they used it.  Maybe they'll chime in.
  > Don
  > 
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Rick Kellner <rfkellner@snet.net>
  > Sent: Apr 4, 2004 11:58 AM
  > To: 'Scirocco-l' <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
  > Subject: RE: Thanks to all for the injector cleaning help
  > 
  > I don't know if you have checked for vacuum leaks yet, it seems as if
  > you have done just about everything else so you might want to try one
  > more thing.  It also doesn't' sound like a vacuum leak however; you
  > never know.
  > When I look for vacuum leaks, I spray the area around the TB, boot and
  > hoses with a small amount of starting fluid.  If the idle goes up, you
  > have a leak.
  > Rick K.
  > 
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
  > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of calimus
  > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 12:59 PM
  > To: Scirocco-l
  > Subject: Thanks to all for the injector cleaning help
  > 
  > Just wanted to thank everyone for their responces.  I ened up just
  > soaking
  > them in injector cleaner for about 4 hours, shaking them up every hour.
  > The
  > color of the cleaner when done could only be described as YUCK.  Slapped
  > on
  > some new O-rings and shoved them in the car.  It didn't solve the miss
  > issue
  > that I have, but the car does have more power.  I'm starting to wonder
  > now
  > if the dizzy has a problem since I've now replaced, plugs, wires, cap,
  > rotor, coil and injectors.  Kinda running out of options so I think I'm
  > down
  > to the ECU, ICM and the dizzy.  ICM should be fine as I'm not getting
  > any
  > starting problems, hit the key, fires up, just won't stay running
  > without
  > keeping your foot on the gas for a few min.
  > 
  > So, the mystery continues, I'll figure it out eventually.  But anyway,
  > thanks again to all that responded.
  > 
  > William Snyder
  > 
  > 88' Scirocco 16v
  > 89' Cabriolet 8v
  > 71' Karmann Ghia
  > 
  > 
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  > Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
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  > 1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (under repair)
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