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Thanks to all for the injector cleaning help



Point taken...  However, how many times has you had fire "all the way to the 
torch", and had a source of gasoline on the other end?  :-)

Better too safe than not too circumspect...

David Utley

Quoting L F <rocco16v@netzero.net>:

> David,
>   So what if there's fire "all the way to the torch"?
> There is fire all the way to my torch every time I light it off....
> :)
> 
> Larry
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: David Utley 
>   To: Don Walter 
>   Cc: 'Scirocco-l' 
>   Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 6:46 AM
>   Subject: RE: Thanks to all for the injector cleaning help
> 
> 
>   That might have been me...  
> 
>     When I lived in Cali., a fella I knew operated a sniffer station, and so
> he 
>   had to do involved work on emissions equipment, which included vacuum
> leaks...
> 
>     What he did was to use a 'Bernz-o-matic' torch, and a long piece of clear
> 
>   plastic hose...  Attatched the hose to the torch, and had the torch -just-
> 
>   cracked open, and about 10-15 foot away from the vehicle...  -IF- there is
> a 
>   fire, the clear hose will melt and lessen the chances of getting a flash
> all 
>   the way to the torch.  He said it was the most effective thing he had found
> to 
>   find leaks:  Carb cleaner can cool the intake which can increase air
> density 
>   and therefore increase the idle with none of it actually burning...
> 
>     Don's right, I have not had to use this yet.  However, when it comes to 
>   setting the knob on the torch, I would take the hose over to the intake 
>   snorkel and see how much of an increase in throttle there is when the
> engine 
>   gets a full whiff of the gas, and adjust accordingly...
> 
>   HTH
> 
>   David Utley
> 
>   Quoting Don Walter <dswalterwi@earthlink.net>:
> 
>   > Someone else had a suggestion on locating vacum leaks, I think it was
>   > propane?  But they never said how they used it.  Maybe they'll chime in.
>   > Don
>   > 
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: Rick Kellner <rfkellner@snet.net>
>   > Sent: Apr 4, 2004 11:58 AM
>   > To: 'Scirocco-l' <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>   > Subject: RE: Thanks to all for the injector cleaning help
>   > 
>   > I don't know if you have checked for vacuum leaks yet, it seems as if
>   > you have done just about everything else so you might want to try one
>   > more thing.  It also doesn't' sound like a vacuum leak however; you
>   > never know.
>   > When I look for vacuum leaks, I spray the area around the TB, boot and
>   > hoses with a small amount of starting fluid.  If the idle goes up, you
>   > have a leak.
>   > Rick K.
>   > 
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
>   > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf Of calimus
>   > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 12:59 PM
>   > To: Scirocco-l
>   > Subject: Thanks to all for the injector cleaning help
>   > 
>   > Just wanted to thank everyone for their responces.  I ened up just
>   > soaking
>   > them in injector cleaner for about 4 hours, shaking them up every hour.
>   > The
>   > color of the cleaner when done could only be described as YUCK.  Slapped
>   > on
>   > some new O-rings and shoved them in the car.  It didn't solve the miss
>   > issue
>   > that I have, but the car does have more power.  I'm starting to wonder
>   > now
>   > if the dizzy has a problem since I've now replaced, plugs, wires, cap,
>   > rotor, coil and injectors.  Kinda running out of options so I think I'm
>   > down
>   > to the ECU, ICM and the dizzy.  ICM should be fine as I'm not getting
>   > any
>   > starting problems, hit the key, fires up, just won't stay running
>   > without
>   > keeping your foot on the gas for a few min.
>   > 
>   > So, the mystery continues, I'll figure it out eventually.  But anyway,
>   > thanks again to all that responded.
>   > 
>   > William Snyder
>   > 
>   > 88' Scirocco 16v
>   > 89' Cabriolet 8v
>   > 71' Karmann Ghia
>   > 
>   > 
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>   > Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
>   > 1969 Beetle
>   > 1969 Karman Ghia
>   > 1971 Karman Ghia
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>   > 1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (under repair)
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