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damn butt dyno...is it lying? and header install thoughts...

Sheesh. My first Dyno was 52 massive horses   :)
70 to 83 would have been a thrill  :)



Julie Macfarlane
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>From: Drew MacPherson <drew@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca>
>To: Jason <jason@scirocco.org>
>CC: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: RE: damn butt dyno...is it lying? and header install  thoughts...
>Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:22:50 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
>Well, the way I look at it, it's all about TORQUE.  At least that's what I
>tell myself as I rumble up a steep grade @ 1900 rpm in fifth on the ass of
>a Honda that really should have downshifted a few more gears to make it to
>the top.
>
>I don't think Klaus is doing too badly though - and with just a few little
>tweaks you can get that 1.6 from 83 bhp up to 110 bhp (lessee, get some
>diesel pistons and mill em' down to 13:1, get a fat cam, port and polish,
>euro dual downpipe, 2"  exhaust...)
>
>At least your 1.6 is starting out at 83bhp - mine started out at 70... :(
>
>Drew
>
>
>On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Jason wrote:
>
> > That's funny to think:, Klaus only putting down half.  But you're right,
> > that's probably what it should put out.  Wow.
> >
> > Is Josh C coming?  I haven't heard anything about that.  It's not a
> > problem, but I need to know for accommodation purposes here...
> >
> > Ttyl! :)
> > Jay
> >
> >
> >
> > At 07:24 AM 10/9/2003, C Boyko wrote:
> > >Well, you have "Mr chick magnet MkI" to worry about too, and Josh C, 
>but
> > >they have those lumpy idle cams. I'll be delighted if Klaus manages 
>half
> > >what the headache has (SO not gonna happen...). (You have us down for 
>some
> > >pulls, right?)
> > >And you know what my face will look like when you run yours. For those 
>who
> > >have never gone to a dyno day, don't do it, it is very addictive. I 
>just
> > >love the sound...
> > >Cathy
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: Jason Cammisa <jcammisa@alwaysonline.net>
> > >>To: "C Boyko" <roccit_53@hotmail.com>,abatzis2@hotmail.com,
> > >>scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > >>Subject: RE: damn butt dyno...is it lying? and header install  
>thoughts...
> > >>Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 01:12:01 -0400
> > >>
> > >>Yes, and Cathy you're the reason I'm dynoing mine next week.   I've 
>got
> > >>the 2L w/ 2L head, full Supersprint Exhaust, no 50mm, and an Intake 
>cam
> > >>that's apparently slightly more aggressive than Euro.  I can't wait to
> > >>see what it does.
> > >>
> > >>And like I've said, if it doesn't pull what yours did, I'm yanking the
> > >>cam and putting in a 260/276 set. :-)
> > >>Jason
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>At 09:59 PM 10/8/2003, C Boyko wrote:
> > >>>Very much like mine except for the intake manifold  I have the 50mm),
> > >>>and I don't have headers. Mine is good for 133 to the wheels, on a 
>good
> > >>>day..but isn't every day a good day?
> > >>>Cathy
> > >>>2L/1.8 head, euro intake manifold and intake cam, TT exhaust etc, the
> > >>>standard recipe...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>From: "Michael Abatzis" <abatzis2@hotmail.com>
> > >>>>To: "'car'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > >>>>Subject: RE: damn butt dyno...is it lying? and header install
> > >>>>thoughts...
> > >>>>Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:52:19 -0500
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> > At 03:00 PM 10/8/2003, Michael Abatzis wrote:
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > >--what kind of numbers can i expect with: 2l 16v, euro intake, 
>1.8
> > >>>> > >head, tt header/cat back, cis-e? i'm thinking around 120 at
> > >>>> > the wheels.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Yeah, it should be somewhere around there, perhaps a little 
>higher.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > A stock 2.0 will put out 115-122 to the wheels.  I got no
> > >>>> > power at all from
> > >>>> > my Supersprint catless race header and exhaust (on the dyno), and 
>my
> > >>>> > butt-dyno told me that it was actually slower with the 1.8 head 
>on it.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > I assume you mean Euro Intake as in the 50mm runners, and not
> > >>>> > Euro intake
> > >>>> > "cam"... right?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>whoops. i did mean "cam". also tt adjustable cam sprocket, i think 
>it's
> > >>>>at 0 now though.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > If everything is in 100% perfect running order on your car,
> > >>>> > you should be
> > >>>> > happy with anything over 123 or so... With a Euro Intake Cam,
> > >>>> > I'd bump that
> > >>>> > number to just over 130.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Keep us posted.  If you feel like doing a lot of driving, I'm
> > >>>> > doing a local
> > >>>> > (outside of Pittsburgh PA) dyno day on Saturday the 18th. :) 
>Jason
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>love to. gotta work though. pay the bills, you know.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>----------------------------------------------
> > >>>>Michael Abatzis
> > >>>>New Orleans!
> > >>>>'87 Scirocco 16v, sick right now...
> > >>>>'88 Scircocc 16v, RIP
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