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damn butt dyno...is it lying? and header install thoughts...




Well, the way I look at it, it's all about TORQUE.  At least that's what I
tell myself as I rumble up a steep grade @ 1900 rpm in fifth on the ass of
a Honda that really should have downshifted a few more gears to make it to 
the top.

I don't think Klaus is doing too badly though - and with just a few little
tweaks you can get that 1.6 from 83 bhp up to 110 bhp (lessee, get some
diesel pistons and mill em' down to 13:1, get a fat cam, port and polish,
euro dual downpipe, 2"  exhaust...)

At least your 1.6 is starting out at 83bhp - mine started out at 70... :(

Drew


On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Jason wrote:

> That's funny to think:, Klaus only putting down half.  But you're right, 
> that's probably what it should put out.  Wow.
> 
> Is Josh C coming?  I haven't heard anything about that.  It's not a 
> problem, but I need to know for accommodation purposes here...
> 
> Ttyl! :)
> Jay
> 
> 
> 
> At 07:24 AM 10/9/2003, C Boyko wrote:
> >Well, you have "Mr chick magnet MkI" to worry about too, and Josh C, but 
> >they have those lumpy idle cams. I'll be delighted if Klaus manages half 
> >what the headache has (SO not gonna happen...). (You have us down for some 
> >pulls, right?)
> >And you know what my face will look like when you run yours. For those who 
> >have never gone to a dyno day, don't do it, it is very addictive. I just 
> >love the sound...
> >Cathy
> >
> >
> >>From: Jason Cammisa <jcammisa@alwaysonline.net>
> >>To: "C Boyko" <roccit_53@hotmail.com>,abatzis2@hotmail.com, 
> >>scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> >>Subject: RE: damn butt dyno...is it lying? and header install  thoughts...
> >>Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 01:12:01 -0400
> >>
> >>Yes, and Cathy you're the reason I'm dynoing mine next week.   I've got 
> >>the 2L w/ 2L head, full Supersprint Exhaust, no 50mm, and an Intake cam 
> >>that's apparently slightly more aggressive than Euro.  I can't wait to 
> >>see what it does.
> >>
> >>And like I've said, if it doesn't pull what yours did, I'm yanking the 
> >>cam and putting in a 260/276 set. :-)
> >>Jason
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>At 09:59 PM 10/8/2003, C Boyko wrote:
> >>>Very much like mine except for the intake manifold  I have the 50mm), 
> >>>and I don't have headers. Mine is good for 133 to the wheels, on a good 
> >>>day..but isn't every day a good day?
> >>>Cathy
> >>>2L/1.8 head, euro intake manifold and intake cam, TT exhaust etc, the 
> >>>standard recipe...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From: "Michael Abatzis" <abatzis2@hotmail.com>
> >>>>To: "'car'" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >>>>Subject: RE: damn butt dyno...is it lying? and header install
> >>>>thoughts...
> >>>>Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 14:52:19 -0500
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> > At 03:00 PM 10/8/2003, Michael Abatzis wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > >--what kind of numbers can i expect with: 2l 16v, euro intake, 1.8
> >>>> > >head, tt header/cat back, cis-e? i'm thinking around 120 at
> >>>> > the wheels.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Yeah, it should be somewhere around there, perhaps a little higher.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > A stock 2.0 will put out 115-122 to the wheels.  I got no
> >>>> > power at all from
> >>>> > my Supersprint catless race header and exhaust (on the dyno), and my
> >>>> > butt-dyno told me that it was actually slower with the 1.8 head on it.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I assume you mean Euro Intake as in the 50mm runners, and not
> >>>> > Euro intake
> >>>> > "cam"... right?
> >>>>
> >>>>whoops. i did mean "cam". also tt adjustable cam sprocket, i think it's
> >>>>at 0 now though.
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > If everything is in 100% perfect running order on your car,
> >>>> > you should be
> >>>> > happy with anything over 123 or so... With a Euro Intake Cam,
> >>>> > I'd bump that
> >>>> > number to just over 130.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Keep us posted.  If you feel like doing a lot of driving, I'm
> >>>> > doing a local
> >>>> > (outside of Pittsburgh PA) dyno day on Saturday the 18th. :) Jason
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>love to. gotta work though. pay the bills, you know.
> >>>>
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> >>>>Michael Abatzis
> >>>>New Orleans!
> >>>>'87 Scirocco 16v, sick right now...
> >>>>'88 Scircocc 16v, RIP
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