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i live in davie county in north carolina, and when they do inspections here they do no check exhaust at all.  my car is a 1987 16v scirocco.  the exhaust place i went to was in a neighboring county.  the guy that did it is a wizard with a torch and i had seen his work b4, which is why i chose to go there.  when i was explaining what i wanted i mentioned doing it without a cat. he said he couldnt do non-cat exhausts because if for some reason EPA came into his shop while he was working there would be a $2500 fine.  now im sure the odds of them showing up at some tiny muffler shop in a small town is very unlikely, but he wasnt going to take the chance. i said "but i have a race dp and it fills the place where a cat would be" and he looked under the car and said "no problem".  i came back 4 hours later and there was definately a cat under there.  next time its on a lift ill try to remember to take pics.
-tony
 Rabbit16v <Rabbit16v@attbi.com> wrote:If you don't have any emissions to pass then why the heck do you have a cat
on at all? What year is your car and what year do you have to do emissions?
This is exactly why I never want to hot rod anything that is new enough to
smog. No smog here either but I know it's coming and don't want to have to
worry about it.

Find out for sure about this "fine" heresay is almost always wrong!!

Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Morehead" 
To: "Ron Pieper" ; "list" 
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: tt race dp question: can I fit a cat with it?


>
> its about 3 inches back past the end of the dp. he turned it at sort of a
diagonal to make it fit. i havent had it smogged, because where i live
there are no emissions inspections to pass. i was gonna have it done
without a cat, but the guy said there would be a huge fine if epa came while
he was doing it.
> -tony
> Ron Pieper wrote:Where'd they put the cat, way back
where the resonator belongs? Have
> it smogged? Would like to know results if so.
>
> Thx
>
> Ron
>
> --- Tony Morehead wrote:
> >
> > actually i have a tt race dp, a high flow cat, 2 1/4" piping and a
> > magnaflow muffler. in other words it can be done. its not bolted
> > together though, it was entirely custom done by my local exhaust
> > artist who welds everything.
> > -tony
> > Sandor wrote:ok, I can a good deal on a TT race
> > downpipe, which as you guys know I need
> > to get my 87 16V scirocco on the road...but this car is still
> > emissions
> > controlled, so I have to run a cat, so can I run a cat on the TT race
> > dp
> > and have it fit in a mk2 16V rocco?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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<P>i live in davie county in north carolina, and when they do inspections here they do no check exhaust at all.&nbsp; my car is a 1987 16v scirocco.&nbsp; the exhaust place i went to was in a neighboring county.&nbsp; the guy that did it is a wizard with a torch and i had seen his work b4, which is why i chose to go there.&nbsp; when i was explaining what i wanted i mentioned doing it without a cat. he said he couldnt do non-cat exhausts because if for some reason EPA came into his shop while he was working there would be a $2500 fine.&nbsp; now im sure the odds of them showing up at some tiny muffler shop in a small town is very unlikely, but he wasnt going to take the chance. i said "but i have a race dp and it fills the place where a cat would be" and he looked under the car and said "no problem".&nbsp; i came back 4 hours later and there was definately a cat under there.&nbsp; next time its on a lift ill try to remember to take pics.
<P>-tony
<P>&nbsp;<B><I>Rabbit16v &lt;Rabbit16v@attbi.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">If you don't have any emissions to pass then why the heck do you have a cat<BR>on at all? What year is your car and what year do you have to do emissions?<BR>This is exactly why I never want to hot rod anything that is new enough to<BR>smog. No smog here either but I know it's coming and don't want to have to<BR>worry about it.<BR><BR>Find out for sure about this "fine" heresay is almost always wrong!!<BR><BR>Dave<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Tony Morehead" <WOLFSBURG16V2K2@YAHOO.COM><BR>To: "Ron Pieper" <RAPIEPER@YAHOO.COM>; "list" <SCIROCCO-L@SCIROCCO.ORG><BR>Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 7:04 PM<BR>Subject: Re: tt race dp question: can I fit a cat with it?<BR><BR><BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; its about 3 inches back past the end of the dp. he turned it at sort of a<BR>diagonal to make it fit. i havent had it smogged, because where i live<BR>there are no emissions inspections to pass. i was gonna have it done<BR>without a cat, but the guy said there would be a huge fine if epa came while<BR>he was doing it.<BR>&gt; -tony<BR>&gt; Ron Pieper <RAPIEPER@YAHOO.COM>wrote:Where'd they put the cat, way back<BR>where the resonator belongs? Have<BR>&gt; it smogged? Would like to know results if so.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Thx<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Ron<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; --- Tony Morehead wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; actually i have a tt race dp, a high flow cat, 2 1/4" piping and a<BR>&gt; &gt; magnaflow muffler. in other words it can be done. its not bolted<BR>&gt; &gt; together though, it was entirely custom done by my local exhaust<BR>&gt; &gt; artist who welds everything.<BR>&gt; &gt; -tony<BR>&gt; &gt; Sandor wrote:ok, I can a good deal on a TT race<BR>&gt; &gt; downpipe, which as you guys know I need<BR>&gt; &gt; to get my 87 16V scirocco on the road...but this car is still<BR>&gt; &gt; emissions<BR>&gt; &gt; controlled, so I have to run a cat, so can I run a cat on the TT race<BR>&gt; &gt; dp<BR>&gt; &gt; and have it fit in a mk2 16V rocco?<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; &gt; Scirocco-l mailing list<BR>&gt; &gt; Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>&gt; &gt; http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 1987 2 or 3 tone 16v scirocco<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; ---------------------------------<BR>&gt; &gt; Do you Yahoo!?<BR>&gt; &gt; Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; __________________________________________________<BR>&gt; Do you Yahoo!?<BR>&gt; Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.<BR>&gt; http://mailplus.yahoo.com<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; _______________________________________________<BR>&gt; Scirocco-l mailing list<BR>&gt; Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>&gt; http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 1987 2 or 3 tone 16v scirocco<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; ---------------------------------<BR>&gt; Do you Yahoo!?<BR>&gt; Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now<BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Scirocco-l mailing list<BR>Scirocco-l@scirocco.org<BR>http://neubayern.net/mailman/listinfo/scirocco-l</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>1987 2 or 3 tone 16v scirocco<p><br><hr size=1>Do you Yahoo!?<br>
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