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The speed shop that 'modified' my cat on my 8V (pipe welded thru the
center) also told me the same thing... All they did was write "Race only,
not to be used on public roads" on my receipt to keep it legal.
Now the difference is that on 8V cars the cat bolts in so I just hand
carried it to the shop and on a 16V, unless you remove the dp, you will
have to drive it in but either way if the owner of the shop notes that on
the paperwork then he is absolved of any responsibility... I'm not a lawyer
so I don't know if that's 100% true...
-RGK-
At 06:58 AM 1/13/03 -0800, you wrote:
>i live in davie county in north carolina, and when they do inspections
>here they do no check exhaust at all. my car is a 1987 16v scirocco. the
>exhaust place i went to was in a neighboring county. the guy that did it
>is a wizard with a torch and i had seen his work b4, which is why i chose
>to go there. when i was explaining what i wanted i mentioned doing it
>without a cat. he said he couldnt do non-cat exhausts because if for some
>reason EPA came into his shop while he was working there would be a $2500
>fine. now im sure the odds of them showing up at some tiny muffler shop
>in a small town is very unlikely, but he wasnt going to take the chance. i
>said "but i have a race dp and it fills the place where a cat would be"
>and he looked under the car and said "no problem". i came back 4 hours
>later and there was definately a cat under there. next time its on a lift
>ill try to remember to take pics.
>
>-tony
>
> Rabbit16v <Rabbit16v@attbi.com> wrote:
>If you don't have any emissions to pass then why the heck do you have a cat
>on at all? What year is your car and what year do you have to do emissions?
>This is exactly why I never want to hot rod anything that is new enough to
>smog. No smog here either but I know it's coming and don't want to have to
>worry about it.
>
>Find out for sure about this "fine" heresay is almost always wrong!!
>
>Dave
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tony Morehead"
>To: "Ron Pieper" ; "list"
>Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 7:04 PM
>Subject: Re: tt race dp question: can I fit a cat with it?
>
>
>
> >
> > its about 3 inches back past the end of the dp. he turned it at sort of a
>diagonal to make it fit. i havent had it smogged, because where i live
>there are no emissions inspections to pass. i was gonna have it done
>without a cat, but the guy said there would be a huge fine if epa came while
>he was doing it.
> > -tony
> > Ron Pieper wrote:Where'd they put the cat, way back
>where the resonator belongs? Have
> > it smogged? Would like to know results if so.
> >
> > Thx
> >
> > Ron
> >
> > --- Tony Morehead wrote:
> > >
> > > actually i have a tt race dp, a high flow cat, 2 1/4" piping and a
> > > magnaflow muffler. in other words it can be done. its not bolted
> > > together though, it was entirely custom done by my local exhaust
> > > artist who welds everything.
> > > -tony
> > > Sandor wrote:ok, I can a good deal on a TT race
> > > downpipe, which as you guys know I need
> > > to get my 87 16V scirocco on the road...but this car is still
> > > emissions
> > > controlled, so I have to run a cat, so can I run a cat on the TT race
> > > dp
> > > and have it fit in a mk2 16V rocco?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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The speed shop that 'modified' my cat on my 8V (pipe welded thru the
center) also told me the same thing... All they did was write "Race
only, not to be used on public roads" on my receipt to keep it
legal. <br><br>
Now the difference is that on 8V cars the cat bolts in so I just hand
carried it to the shop and on a 16V, unless you remove the dp, you will
have to drive it in but either way if the owner of the shop notes that on
the paperwork then he is absolved of any responsibility... I'm not a
lawyer so I don't know if that's 100% true...<br><br>
-RGK-<br><br>
At 06:58 AM 1/13/03 -0800, you wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite>i live in davie county in north
carolina, and when they do inspections here they do no check exhaust at
all. my car is a 1987 16v scirocco. the exhaust place i went
to was in a neighboring county. the guy that did it is a wizard
with a torch and i had seen his work b4, which is why i chose to go
there. when i was explaining what i wanted i mentioned doing it
without a cat. he said he couldnt do non-cat exhausts because if for some
reason EPA came into his shop while he was working there would be a $2500
fine. now im sure the odds of them showing up at some tiny muffler
shop in a small town is very unlikely, but he wasnt going to take the
chance. i said "but i have a race dp and it fills the place where a
cat would be" and he looked under the car and said "no
problem". i came back 4 hours later and there was definately a
cat under there. next time its on a lift ill try to remember to
take pics. <br><br>
-tony <br><br>
<b><i>Rabbit16v <Rabbit16v@attbi.com></i></b> wrote:=20
<dl>
<dd>If you don't have any emissions to pass then why the heck do you have
a cat
<dd>on at all? What year is your car and what year do you have to do
emissions?
<dd>This is exactly why I never want to hot rod anything that is new
enough to
<dd>smog. No smog here either but I know it's coming and don't want to
have to
<dd>worry about it.<br><br>
<dd>Find out for sure about this "fine" heresay is almost
always wrong!!<br><br>
<dd>Dave
<dd>----- Original Message -----
<dd>From: "Tony Morehead"=20
<dd>To: "Ron Pieper" ; "list"=20
<dd>Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 7:04 PM
<dd>Subject: Re: tt race dp question: can I fit a cat with it?<br><br>
<br><br>
<dd>>
<dd>> its about 3 inches back past the end of the dp. he turned it at
sort of a
<dd>diagonal to make it fit. i havent had it smogged, because where i
live
<dd>there are no emissions inspections to pass. i was gonna have it=20
done
<dd>without a cat, but the guy said there would be a huge fine if epa
came while
<dd>he was doing it.
<dd>> -tony
<dd>> Ron Pieper wrote:Where'd they put the cat, way back
<dd>where the resonator belongs? Have
<dd>> it smogged? Would like to know results if so.
<dd>>
<dd>> Thx
<dd>>
<dd>> Ron
<dd>>
<dd>> --- Tony Morehead wrote:
<dd>> >
<dd>> > actually i have a tt race dp, a high flow cat, 2 1/4"
piping and a
<dd>> > magnaflow muffler. in other words it can be done. its not
bolted
<dd>> > together though, it was entirely custom done by my local
exhaust
<dd>> > artist who welds everything.
<dd>> > -tony
<dd>> > Sandor wrote:ok, I can a good deal on a TT race
<dd>> > downpipe, which as you guys know I need
<dd>> > to get my 87 16V scirocco on the road...but this car is
still
<dd>> > emissions
<dd>> > controlled, so I have to run a cat, so can I run a cat on
the TT race
<dd>> > dp
<dd>> > and have it fit in a mk2 16V rocco?
<dd>> >
<dd>> >
<dd>> >
<dd>> >
<dd>> > _______________________________________________
<dd>> > Scirocco-l mailing list
<dd>> > Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
<dd>> >
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<dd>> >
<dd>> > 1987 2 or 3 tone 16v scirocco
<dd>> >
<dd>> >
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<dd>> 1987 2 or 3 tone 16v scirocco
<dd>>
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