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They may not be standard (SAE), since many Fords, Chevys, etc are using =
lots of metric fasteners. :(
Larry
sandiego16v
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Allyn=20
To: Brian McGarvey ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org=20
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: Cheap ARP VW alternative: using ARP bolts.
arp bolts for ford (standard) on a vw (metric), umm, what needs to be =
done
to make them fit properly? i just dont see throwing bolts on that are =
even
slightly off as far as thread size goes... unless they are *so* close =
that
it works properly.
Al
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian McGarvey" <brianm@earendel.org>
To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 3:40 PM
Subject: Cheap ARP VW alternative: using ARP bolts.
> If some of you folks out there have something to say ... let me know
> Brian
>
> http://forums.vwsport.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D2139&highlight=3D#2139
>
> Picked from the hardcore VW lists. Nate and his 2.0L 20v NA corrado =
11 sec
> car.
>
> you can do like some of the shops do (WON'T GIVE ANY NAMES HERE)..
>
> Get a set of ARP bolts for Ford 302 ( V8 )
> The set will be like $60, and you'll have enough for 2 motors. =
(share em
> with a friend )
>
> I was worried about mine in my ABA 20v, but they are doing just =
fine. The
> machine shop checked them out before installing and recondition the =
rods,
> and they were confident that I wouldn't have any problems.
>
> The Ford bolts are not metric thread or diameter (I think they are =
.001"
> larger). They are not splined at the top, so the interferance fit =
holds
> them in place.
> _________________
> -"Professor" Nate
> www.Race101.com
> World's Quickest All-Motor Corrado
>
> on my motor, it looked like "they" took the ford bolts, and just =
reduced
> the diameter of the bolt head (kinda looks like 'they' did it by =
hand)
>
> But on my ABA rods, it doesn't even look like they needed to. =
Perhaps on
> 1.8 rods, there might be a clearance issue, but I wouldn't think it =
would
> take much to make them work.
>
> I ordered this set of "ARP rod bolts for VW"... for "them".
> Paid $65 + S&H.
> Came in a dirty ziplock bag, with a small packet of ARP intall lube, =
and a
> little slip of paper that said "28 ft/lbs"
>
> My machine shop looked at them and said they looked like Ford302 =
bolts.
> I called ARP, and described them. They said probably Ford bolts =
also.
>
> I called "them" up... and 'they" got all defensive....
> "we've been building and racing VW's for years. These are the exact =
same
> bolts we've always used. These are made for VW... we get them in =
bulk, and
> split them up, that's why they are in unmarked packaging.... blah, =
blah"
>
> I wasn't calling them mad or anything, just wanted to know what was =
up. By
> the time I called them, the motor was already together and working =
fine.
> _________________
> -"Professor" Nate
> www.Race101.com
> World's Quickest All-Motor Corrado
>
>
> --
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Brian
> 88 16v $2003 GRM challenge car http://www.grmotorsports.com
> 84 0v Next years car got parts?
> 82 2.0L Topless bunny -- Knock Ignition and bigger clutch. next.
> 90 90q20v doing daily driver duty.
> 91 VFR750F everybody needs a 11-12 sec vehicle.
>
> Contact method. Email me for AIM, ICQ, YahooIM, IRC, etc.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They may not be standard (SAE), since =
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Chevys, etc are using lots of metric fasteners. :(</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sandiego16v</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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title=3Dbrianm@earendel.org>Brian McGarvey</A> ; <A=20
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org"=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, February 09, 2003 =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Cheap ARP VW =
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using ARP bolts.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>arp bolts for ford (standard) on a vw (metric), umm, =
what needs=20
to be done<BR>to make them fit properly? i just dont see throwing =
bolts on=20
that are even<BR>slightly off as far as thread size goes... unless =
they are=20
*so* close that<BR>it works properly.<BR>Al<BR><BR>----- Original =
Message=20
-----<BR>From: "Brian McGarvey" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:brianm@earendel.org";>brianm@earendel.org</A>><BR>To: =
<<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:scirocco-l@scirocco.org";>scirocco-l@scirocco.org</A>><B=
R>Sent:=20
Sunday, February 09, 2003 3:40 PM<BR>Subject: Cheap ARP VW =
alternative: using=20
ARP bolts.<BR><BR><BR>> If some of you folks out there have =
something to=20
say ... let me know<BR>> Brian<BR>><BR>> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://forums.vwsport.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D2139&highlight=3D=
#2139">http://forums.vwsport.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D2139&highlight=3D#=
2139</A><BR>><BR>>=20
Picked from the hardcore VW lists. Nate and his 2.0L 20v NA corrado 11 =
sec<BR>> car.<BR>><BR>> you can do like some of the shops do =
(WON'T=20
GIVE ANY NAMES HERE)..<BR>><BR>> Get a set of ARP bolts for Ford =
302 (=20
V8 )<BR>> The set will be like $60, and you'll have enough for 2 =
motors.=20
(share em<BR>> with a friend )<BR>><BR>> I was worried =
about=20
mine in my ABA 20v, but they are doing just fine. The<BR>> machine =
shop=20
checked them out before installing and recondition the rods,<BR>> =
and they=20
were confident that I wouldn't have any problems.<BR>><BR>> The =
Ford=20
bolts are not metric thread or diameter (I think they are =
.001"<BR>>=20
larger). They are not splined at the top, so the interferance fit=20
holds<BR>> them in place.<BR>> _________________<BR>> =
-"Professor"=20
Nate<BR>> <A =
href=3D"http://www.Race101.com";>www.Race101.com</A><BR>>=20
World's Quickest All-Motor Corrado<BR>><BR>> on my motor, it =
looked like=20
"they" took the ford bolts, and just reduced<BR>> the diameter of =
the bolt=20
head (kinda looks like 'they' did it by hand)<BR>><BR>> But on =
my ABA=20
rods, it doesn't even look like they needed to. Perhaps on<BR>> 1.8 =
rods,=20
there might be a clearance issue, but I wouldn't think it =
would<BR>> take=20
much to make them work.<BR>><BR>> I ordered this set of "ARP rod =
bolts=20
for VW"... for "them".<BR>> Paid $65 + S&H.<BR>> Came in a =
dirty=20
ziplock bag, with a small packet of ARP intall lube, and a<BR>> =
little slip=20
of paper that said "28 ft/lbs"<BR>><BR>> My machine shop looked =
at them=20
and said they looked like Ford302 bolts.<BR>> I called ARP, and =
described=20
them. They said probably Ford bolts also.<BR>><BR>> I called =
"them"=20
up... and 'they" got all defensive....<BR>> "we've been building =
and racing=20
VW's for years. These are the exact same<BR>> bolts we've always =
used.=20
These are made for VW... we get them in bulk, and<BR>> split them =
up,=20
that's why they are in unmarked packaging.... blah, =
blah"<BR>><BR>> I=20
wasn't calling them mad or anything, just wanted to know what was up.=20
By<BR>> the time I called them, the motor was already together and =
working=20
fine.<BR>> _________________<BR>> -"Professor" Nate<BR>> <A=20
href=3D"http://www.Race101.com";>www.Race101.com</A><BR>> World's =
Quickest=20
All-Motor Corrado<BR>><BR>><BR>> --<BR>>=20
-------------------------------------------------------------<BR>>=20
Brian<BR>> 88 16v $2003 GRM challenge car <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.grmotorsports.com";>http://www.grmotorsports.com</A><BR=
>>=20
84 0v Next years car got parts?<BR>> 82 2.0L Topless bunny -- Knock =
Ignition and bigger clutch. next.<BR>> 90 90q20v doing daily driver =
duty.<BR>> 91 VFR750F everybody needs a 11-12 sec =
vehicle.<BR>><BR>>=20
Contact method. Email me for AIM, ICQ, YahooIM, IRC, etc.<BR>>=20
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