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Re: sudden car death (fuel?)



I bought a new fuel filter today, no it's not a bosch....
It's a fram, they had it in stock and it was $10 cheaper than
the bosch, I hope no one has a problem with this!

Now, my question, are these filters directional or is does
it matter which way I hook it up?  Should the seam face the
front or the rear of the car?

Cheapass Ron wrote:

> Yes, there is a timing mark under the inspection cover
> on the tranny.  there is also a 6 deg mark,  which
> looks like a chisel mark.  Just to the left of that,
> viewed bending over the driver's fender, is a little
> square protrusion (there's also one to the right, a
> little farther away - you want the one to the left). 
> Set the engine there...easier to remove the plugs and
> crank from the 19mm pulley bolt on the front end of
> the crankshaft.  Line that squarish mark up to the
> indicator on the bottom of the inspection hole (you
> have to remove the whole green plug, not just the
> little clear thing in the middle, good luck).   Then
> check the timing mark on the cam...which should be at
> 12:00 and aligned with the little pointer on the inner
> cover.  That should tell you whether the cam timing is
> on or off.  
> 
> AFA the fuel, easiest way to check is with a gauge and
> a double-length banjo bolt...but these are not in
> every garage.  I'd guess the next easiest thing to to
> is remove one injector, preferably all, point it into
> a jar, jumper the fuel pump relay, and lift the
> airflow sensor plate to make sure all spray
> sufficiently...this procedure is in the Bentley.  
> Cracking loose a fuel line fitting from the filter
> could tell you a little something, or maybe even
> removing the return line to the tank and checking flow
> there...that on 2nd though could be valuable because
> that fuel has already been past the pressure
> regulator.
> 
> You do have a fat spark, right?
> 
> And BTW, you *do* have the Bentley...or at least a
> Haynes...right?  No shit, the Bentley is super
> valuable.
> 
> Good luck, let me know how you progress.
> 
> Ron
> 
> --- Geordy Rostad <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Cheapass Ron wrote:
>> 
>>> NOw it's starting to sound like a fuel pump...but
>> 
>> you
>> 
>>> BTDT, right?  
>> 
>> Welllll, not exactly, I turn the key, I hear the
>> fuel pump.  Aside from 
>> that,
>> I crank the motor and I think I still here the fuel
>> pump.  What is the 
>> easy way
>> to check and see if I have actual flow?
>> 
>>> Can you set it to TDC and see where the
>>> cam mark lines up?  That'll tell you whether your
>> 
>> cam
>> 
>>> timing is off.
>> 
>> 
>> You mean the mark on the timing belt gear on the
>> cam?
>> And see if what lines up?  Is there a mark under
>> that
>> inspection plug on the trans?
>> 
>>> 
>>> Ron
>>> --- Geordy Rostad <grostad@thresholdnetworks.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does anyone thing I may have a fuel problem?  I
>>> 
>> just
>> 
>>>> replace my injector 
>>>> seals btw.
>>>> Could it be a fuel filter?  Maybe I went over a
>>> 
>> bump
>> 
>>>> and dislodged a 
>>>> grain of muck and clogged
>>>> it?  Could the fuel pump shaft separate from the
>>>> pump mechanism so that 
>>>> it sounds like
>>>> it's spraying fuel but actually not...?   What is
>>>> the easy method to 
>>>> check fuel flow?
>>>> 
>>>> When I put the new airboot on it almost started
>>> 
>> and
>> 
>>>> then died so I don't 
>>>> think it's spark
>>>> or timing.  It only does the almost start and
>>> 
>> then
>> 
>>>> die thing after 
>>>> having sat for quite a
>>>> while.
>>>> 
>>>> Geordy
>>>> '88 jetta 16v
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> geordy wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I want to replace the t-belt anyways since I
>>>> 
>> have
>> 
>>>> absolutely no idea 
>>>> 
>>>>> how long it has been on there.
>>>>> BTW, It died when I hit a bump in the road, my
>>>> 
>>>> scirocco did the same 
>>>> 
>>>>> thing to my brother one
>>>>> time, he hit a bump (or jump) in the road and
>>>> 
>>>> threw the timing off and 
>>>> 
>>>>> it ran shitty all the way home.
>>>>> Mine just died, I wonder what's up...
>>>>> 
>>>>> I put the airbox/intake stuff back together and
>>>> 
>>>> the car still wouldn't 
>>>> 
>>>>> start.  I left all of the other
>>>>> belts off however...  I wouldn't think that
>>>> 
>> would
>> 
>>>> be a problem.
>>>> 
>>>>> 16v Jason wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Doesn't have to be that huge!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you were able to see daylight in there, you
>>>>> 
>>>> have about 0 chance 
>>>> 
>>>>>> that the car will run.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's your problem from the sound of it.  Try
>>>>> 
>> to
>> 
>>>> start the car with 
>>>> 
>>>>>> a new one on there before you kill yourself
>>>>> 
>>>> checking the timing belt.
>>>> 
>>>>>> And why you going through so much trouble to
>>>>> 
>>>> check the belt this 
>>>> 
>>>>>> way?  Couldn't you just have taken the upper
>>>>> 
>>>> cover off without doing 
>>>> 
>>>>>> all that other shit?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At 01:17 AM 5/9/01 , Geordy Rostad wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's not THAT large, but when I removed the
>>>>>> 
>> pipe
>> 
>>>> between the two 
>>>> 
>>>>>>> boots I saw
>>>>>>> daylight...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Brett Van Sprewenburg wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Also, I have noticed a big tear in the
>>>>>>>> 
>>>> throttle body air boot.
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just so I can be the first.... :)
>>>>>>>> But this is probably the reason your car
>>>>>>> 
>> won't
>> 
>>>> run, or start, or
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> what-ever...
>>>>>>>> Any tear in the boot is likely to cause
>>>>>>> 
>> running
>> 
>>>> problems, a large
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> one will cause the car not to run at
>>>>>>> 
>>>> all...probably got your culprit
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>> ==Brett
>>>>>>>> \/  '84 Scirocco (ITB racer 2B) | "Hot VW's,
>>>>>>> 
>>>> take two home. They're 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> small"
>>>>>>>> \/\/ '88 Scirocco 16v (Show), '92 Passat 16v
>>>>>>> 
>>>> (Winter+) | - 
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> brett@netacc.net
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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