Re: New Fuel Relay but no pump action (The woes continue...)

["Wm. Josiah Erikson" <josiah@gsinet.net>]

You can always do what I did in my Rabbit, which is use the stock foglight switch
to activate a relay that jumps terminals 30 and 87, which makes the fuel pump
relay entirely unecessary and bypasses the whole problem. I hate fuel pump relays-
they're nothing but trouble. Just make sure you use a relay if you do this, and
remember to turn it off when you turn the car off (it makes noise, so it's usually
not a problem). I burned out three switches and ruined a fuel pump by running the
current directly through the switch- it heated up like crazy and basically just
couldn't handle the current draw. Stupid me. : )
    -Josiah
    '84 GTi
    '86 Scirocco (buy me!)
    '87 QSW
    http://www.gsinet.net/~josiah

Salvatore Guzzo wrote:

> I just tried reversing the wires like you said, but still nothing.
> HOWEVER, it did kinda run (the fuel pump that is).  Could it be just a bad
> connection at the coil.  What can i use to remedy this.
>
> Sal
>
> At 05:36 PM 11/30/98 -0800, you wrote:
> >Sal,
> >Sorry to hear about your troubles
> >
> >I have my Bently out and it looks like you have the wires wrong.
> >
> >The green from the ignition control unit and the r/bk from the fusebox
> connect to terminal 1 on the coil.
> >
> >The black wires connect to terminal 15....one is from the ignition switch
> and the other is from the ignition unit.
> >
> >Brian Honnold
> >'78 Rocco Ragtop
> >
> >On Monday, November 30, 1998 7:03 PM, Salvatore Guzzo
> [SMTP:yu129742@yorku.ca] wrote:
> >> I was hoping to relate a positive message this evening about the car firing
> >> up and running beautifully.  Unfortunately, such is not the case.  Rather
> >> the woes continue...........
> >>
> >> As a recap, I have gone from a carb setup to the favourable fuel injection
> >> system.  The car is a 84 Rabbit with a new 83 GTI motor.  I had to wire up
> >> the fuel pump and also purchased a new fuel pump relay.  However, when I
> >> turn on the ignition switch, I don't hear the fuel pump running.  I
> >> bypassed the switch by hooking up terminals 30 and 15.  Progress, the fuel
> >> pump runs.  Great I thought.  Possibly the new fuel pump relay is
> >> defective.  I call up the dealer and he says that the fuel pump is not
> >> defective and goes on by saying that terminal 30 has constant power while
> >> terminal 15 only comes on after the ignition switch is on.  He also
> >> mentioned that term. 15 is not a ground wire.  I dunno...the Bentley says
> >> other wise.  So back to the drawing board I went to re-check my wiring....
> >>
> >> It turns out that when the key is turned to the on position, I get powerat
> >> terminals 30, 15 and 1.  Out of curiousity, shouldn't there be power at 87.
> >>  Terminal 87 runs to the fuel pump and I thought that once the key is
> >> turned, the relay would allow current flow through terminal 87. This is
> >> where the terminals are hooked up to..
> >>
> >> 30- direct current.....
> >> 15- ignition switch
> >> 1- red wire connected to a live wire from the seatbelt relay
> >> 87- fuel pump and ignition coil
> >>
> >> Another thing, i did a test on the ignition coil with the key at the onm
> >> position.  At terminal 1 at the coil, I get current...At terminal 15, I
> >> also get current.  Is it possible that I have the coil wires mixed up?
> >> There are two wires which come from the fuse box.  A red/black wire which
> >> possesses current and a black one which also possesses current.  The other
> >> two wires coming from the little box on the driver side near the wiper
> >> assembly (I forgot what it's called) are green and black, green has
> >> current, but the black doesn't.  I have the 2 black wires hooked up to
> >> term. 1 and the green and red/black to term. 15.  Does this all sound
> >> right?  Further testing shows that the red/black wire flows from term. 1 on
> >> the fuel pump relay while the black wire also matches up with term. 15 on
> >> the relay which hooks up to ignition switch.   What a nightmare!!!!!!!!!!
> >> I also noticed that on the distributor, there exists a male adaptor which
> >> seems to me that I must connect something to it.  I'm not sure if such is
> >> the case.  This is such a PITA.  I had the motor in two weeks ago and I
> >> still haven't gotten it started..........
> >>
> >> Sorry for this post being so long but I need to get some input from
> >> somewhere.  I know that if I take it to a mechanic, he'll financially drain
> >> me.  Plus, I'd have to tow it to him.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sal
> >>
> >> 81 Scirocco (awaiting a motor transplant)
> >> 84 Rabbit (awaiting to experience its transplant)
> >> 67 Peugeot 404 (awaiting for the summer of 99)
> >>
> >>
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