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Re: Cylinder Head and Supertrap



At 9:22 PM -0700 9/2/97, Brad Sheridan wrote:
>>
>> Ok Does anyone know whats the torque for 16v Head to block. . ?

I don't, but not 87 in/lbs;).

   I got a
>> small leak and I think it just needs to be retorqued . . . Theres only
>>130 tp
>> 140 miles on the new engine so I don't think it's the seal. . . Anyway I
>>Just
>> replaced my muffler cause it rusted and I dont like the sound and it feels a
>> bit more restrictive. . . So I was thinking about adding a Supertrap to the
>> end of my techtonics piping. . . Does anyone know how this sounds or
>>have any
>> experience with the set up. . .

>  I had a Supertrapp,2.5" exhaust(no cat),dual outlet manifold and techtonics
>downpipe on my 8V. The setup definitely made more power. I liked the
>sound, but many people found it somewhat annoying.

I'd tend to agree.  Annoying.  Sorry, Brad.  Supertrapps resonate badly on
VWs - a local competitor has an ITB Rabbit w/Supertrapp - no interior, roll
cage, etc, you'd expect it to resonate.  OK, that's cool.  Recently,
someone else showed up with an 82 Rabbit 4 door(Alan?  You alive?) and a
Supertrapp - full interior, and it sounded just like the ITB car.
Resonated, hollow sounding, feel like I'm in a trashcan......

With a large exhaust, any
>decent performance muffler should work well. The sounds I've heard that I
>really like are Borlas. I seem to recall someone either here or in the
>newsgroup using a Porsche 944 muffler, which also sounds pretty cool, and
>you may be able to find one reasonably.

That's Peter Tong from the newsgroup.  Never heard that, but I'd guess the
944 muffler is a Leistritz.

 The nice thing about the Borlas and
>some others, is that they have a much quieter 'burble' at idle and when not
>really getting on it, while the Supertrapp is always loud.
>
>Brad

Gotta put in my 2c for the Flowmaster.  It is loud, but not in the car -
the sound stays outside, it flows well(FWIW, Supertrapps are not known to
make the best power on VWs - not bad, but there are better), only downside
to the Fmaster is weight, about 15 pounds more than the competition.
Darrell Adams has one, he seems to like it.  Mine is 2-3 years old now,
still in great shape.  TTYS!



Mannix


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