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OT: Other cars...anyone driven these?



Are you going to race the car? Or is this just a fun car to have just
because?

Don't get me wrong, the S2000 is a great car stats wise. Looks and interior
just don't do it for me personally. I drove my bosses car a couple times and
was cool. Very little room and small. Typical Honda interior treatment.
However, baking them off basically whenever you want is pretty cool. Still
for me there are tons of other cars that I'd rather have. I too wanted more
of a grown up car. Price was a big factor for me. Couldn't be more than $20k
with tax. I really wanted a WRX that was newer and a wagon. Couldn't find
one for under $20k with decent miles and in good shape. Looked for Avant
Quattro Audi 3.2 or even a 1.8t. Test drove some cars in my price range but
the were totally beat.

I'd go for the Porsche if I were you. Or if you find a really good deal on a
STI or EVO 8. Those aren't grown up cars but performance seems to be key to
your criterea. I have a few friends that have the Evo and STI. Those are
monster fast cars. interiors are kind of crappy but like the S2000. You
can't argue with the numbers.

Not looking forward to snow and driving my M3 at the same time. Even with
traction control it is tough to drive in the snow and ice. Only flaw.





On 11/7/06, Michael Abatzis <mabatzis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> as far as an mz3 (again, never having driven one), everything i've
> read about them says they're not very good as sports cars--poor
> handling, bad at limits, etc.  i have thought about an m3 cv, but too
> much $$$.  as far as s2000 being a chick car, well, i guess maybe
> you'd think that every 2 seater roadster is a chick car (unless it's a
> porsche?).  i'd classify the z3 as closer to chickiness than the
> s2000. solstice/sky also, especially since the original was all looks
> and no balls.
> convertible is an absolute requirement here. and grown up meaning that
> it will cost more than every car i've ever owned put together.
> as far as power/weight and weight distro, they're both 50/50, and the
> weight/power is nearly identical at 11 (s2k v. boxster s), depending
> on what you find as their curb weights.  i'm going to have to drive
> both.  nice thing about the boxster is the extra trunk space.
> downside is maintanance, especially on a 3-4 year older car. and a
> porsche.  i'm expecting cost of ownership to be much less for the
> honda.  also, an '02 s in the right condition is going to be much
> tougher to find.  but yeah, there's no denying the appeal of owning a
> porsche.  and yeah, like probably about 1/2 the people on the list, i
> plan on owning/restoring a vintage 911.
>
> when i need the room (and hopefully have a chance to drive in snow
> again!) i'm thinking about maybe an older wrx (if they ever get cheap
> enough).
>
>
> On 11/7/06, Lance LaPrarie <sciroccojunky@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Dude,
> >
> > S2000? fast chick car.  My boss just sold his. Miata, chick car minus
> the
> > fast. (Not a grown up car by any stretch) Z4, chick car too. Sorry but
> it
> > is. M3 coupe is pretty sweet but an aquired taste. Looks funny but is
> fast
> > as hell. AKA Breadvan.
> >
> > For the dough, and anyone that has driven one will totally back me up...
> E36
> > M3.  When I wanted a daily driver and move my rocco from daily driver to
> > showcar/fun car. I looked at a ton of cars. Best bang for your buck is
> an
> > E36 M3. I don't care what anyone says. Brute power and quality is
> awesome.
> > My M3 is a sedan and had 72k on the clock when I bought it back in
> April.
> > Also, M3/BMW owners are going to take care of their cars much better
> than
> > most any other. Mine was pristine when I picked it up. Granted not all
> are
> > the same but you can get a car with 260hp rear wheel drive and all the
> other
> > goodies for $15k-$18k
> >
> > E30 M3 is killer too but way too tempermental for being a daily driver.
> > Great car for weekend racer or show car. Fits your price range too.
> Funny an
> > older M3 is more expensive than some late models. Only BMW to
> appreciate.
> >
> > E46 330I sport package BMW. Close to E36 in power, bit more updated
> > interior/exterior. Same good quality. tad newer. Not as good as an E46
> M3.
> > Stay away from SMG if you can. (f1 paddle shifter option) Not ready for
> > prime time when they first came out.
> >
> > Audi S4 is good if you are handy. 60k on the clock you'll have to
> replace
> > the turbo's $5-$10k that is about the only bad thing about them. Kind of
> a
> > pricey bad point but otherwise they are scare the shit out of you fast.
> >
> > Lotus Elise or Exige are bowel releasing on a higher level but more
> track
> > related. Not a good car for daily driving. A small fender bender can
> empty
> > your wallet quick.
> >
> > Boxter would be awesome. I'd be jealous if you got it. Best power/weight
> and
> > weight distribution.  No substitute is true for just about any Porsche
> minus
> > the 914, 924's. . 82 SC is pretty cool option if your brave.Onlydownside is
> > lift throttle oversteer.  Everyone should own a 911 at least once. I'll
> have
> > one someday. (slowly saving for 993 TT, 2048 I'll have it!!!)
> >
> >
> > Saturn Sky looks cool. "Kind of" a chick car though. Haven't read too
> much
> > on it. Just seen em and like em. Solstice is basically the same car but
> > looks just as cool. I'd never buy one but that is me.
> >
> > My two cents.
> >
> >
> > On 11/7/06, Michael Abatzis <mabatzis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > looking to buy my first (sort of) grown up car.  what would you buy in
> > > the 20-25k range (used)? since i've seen the light since owning one, a
> > > convertible is a must.  it'll be a daily driver.  not having driven
> > > any of them (except miata), here's my list:
> > > 1. honda s2000--this is the leading candidate so far.  i know, it's a
> > > honda. but i haven't seen anyone who didn't love it.  '04 up, since i
> > > want the bigger engine.
> > > 2.  bmw z4 3.0.  2nd place.  a bit cushier than the s2000, and
> > > probably 4k more (at least) for a comparable one.  not to mention
> > > maintainance.
> > > 3.  porche boxter.  tempting.  but for the money, it would be an '02
> > > with 30-40k miles.  and this is with the old engine.  underpowered v.
> > > other 2, and i've been a passenger in one of these. rough ride.
> > > 4. lotus elise.  if it wasn't the daily driver, this would get more
> > > consideration. i've ridden in one, and it's freakin terrifying. but
> > > it's RAW.
> > > 5. miata: cheap. slower than the others. and my girlfriend would
> > > probably leave me for a real man (i really like 'em though).
> > > 6. wildcard entry: saturn sky redline.  don't know enough about it.
> > > intriguing, cheap. c&d review (of the solstice gxp) seems to imply
> > > that it might still be less of a driver's car than the s2000.
> > >
> > >
> > > honorable mention: audi tt.  too slow, too girly. but almost a vw.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -Michael Abatzis
> > > New Orleans!
> > > '88 2.0L Scirocco (RIP)
> > > '87 2.0L Scirocco...(RIP also)
> > > '91 Saab 900t convertible...
> > >
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> '88 2.0L Scirocco (RIP)
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