OT, was Re: Awesome B-Day gift -- Need Race prep info :)

[julie at menloparkrandd.com (julie@menloparkrandd.com)]

Dan wrote:
>OTOH Julie's complete disregard for the MK II is deplorable. ;^)

Now Dan. I own one of each. The MKII is for Jill. 
Just because the MKII is fat and heavy and with an 8v can barely get out of its own way in comaprison to a light, nimble and fast MKI, is not showing disregard ;^)
At Cincy with an attendance of 95% MKII's and 5% MKI's make them rare.
(Well, did I start a MKI/MKII flame war yet or should I keep going :)

>Back on topic, the MK I is a little lighter, little less aerodynamic, handling should be the same, and there won't be any class that you'll fit into with a turbo without being grouped with a bunch of out and out race cars that will absolutely run away and hide from you.
>Most road racing organizations, SCCA, NASA have pretty extensive limitations on engine swapping and preparation. i.e. showing up with a 2.0L in a Scirocco is probably going to bump you out of normal classes. OTOH if it's just an open track day, then build the best handling and best braking car you can, then add a little power if you still have time and money.
>my .02
>Dan
>
>
>From: "Mtl-Marc" <marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:51 PM
>
>> IIRC, they made roughly 500 000 MKIs and 280 000 MKIIs.
>> 
>> You figure which one is rare. :-)
>> 
>> I'd say strip a MKI!
>> 
>> Cheers.
>> 
>> Marc
>> PS. Better yet, find just a shell.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I feel sorry for any MKI stripped and gutted for the track. They look much
>>> better on the road eating Honda.
>>> Strip a MKII. Plenty of parts if you have a problem and no where near as
>>> rare.
>>> Just my 0.02
>>> 
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Cory Langford [mailto:Cory_Langford@bcit.ca]
>>> >Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 12:33 PM
>>> >To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>>> >Subject: Awesome B-Day gift -- Need Race prep info :)
>>> >
>>> >You know you have an understanding spouse when you get track time for
>>> your
>>> >B-day :)
>>> >
>>> >I have always toyed with the idea of trying my hand at racing, just for
>>> >the fun of it, and last weekend my wife gives me the three day licensing
>>> >course package and a practice day with the local sports car assoc. and
>>> the
>>> >instructions to take the next three months to build my dream scirocco. :)
>>> > - Sorry had to gloat a little ;)
>>> >
>>> >So at the end of July I get personal instruction and 3 days of track
>>> time.
>>> >What I need is to build a car that would be somewhat competitive (I know
>>> I
>>> >will never be a professional racer, but I want to try to have a little
>>> >fun...).
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >So I know I need to have a good look at how the classification of cars
>>> >works, etc (I have never even been to the track so this will be a whole
>>> >new world), but I know there are a good number of listers who do some
>>> kind
>>> >of racing so I figured I'd start with suggestions from those in the
>>> >know...
>>> >
>>> >1st up is do I prep a mk2 shell or a mk1 shell? I was thinking mk1 as it
>>> >is a little lighter, but I am not sure how the handling is on the track
>>> >between the two? Any preferences (I have both sitting here waiting..)
>>> >
>>> >Next is suggestions on suspension, engine, exhaust, rims, tires, safety
>>> >equipment needed, etc. I want to make the car not a total track only
>>> >car. I would like to be able to drive it (as I doubt I will be a
>>> >consistent racer), and still have it compete on the track. I am not sure
>>> >how many people drive their cars to the track with maybe a trailer of
>>> >spare parts behind them and then race them, but why not :)
>>> >
>>> >Extra parts that might be useful that I currently have in the stock pile
>>> >to work with would be:
>>> >
>>> >Rebuild FN trany
>>> >Rebuild ACN tranny with Quaife installed
>>> >Stage 4 G60 with 68mm pulley, chiped, etc
>>> >The overbored PG block with stroker crank for aprox 2L stroker engine,
>>> >Callaway turbo kit installed, 260 cam
>>> >1.7L mk1 engine, ported head, 260 cam, adjustable cam gear, TT springs
>>> >Stock 16V sways
>>> >Stock 16V Kbar
>>> >Neuspeed lower stress bar
>>> >Neuspeed Upper stress bar
>>> >Upper rear stress bar (the one that attaches to the rear strut bolts)
>>> >Audi 5K intercooler
>>> >New HK struts (all around)
>>> >Spax Springs (2 years old)
>>> >Apex Springs (1 year old)
>>> >stock 16V springs (??? old)
>>> >10.1 16V brakes & 22mm master cyl.
>>> >Rear 16V discs
>>> >A1 super sprint exhaust (full - flex back res & muffler)
>>> >Remus a3 turbo muffler 3" inlet. (adapted for a1 mounting)
>>> >Suppersprint 8V header
>>> >pair of sparco 4 point harnesses (the quick release kind, so I am not
>>> sure
>>> >if they are good for racing or not)
>>> >Corrado seats
>>> >Scirocco 16V seats
>>> >Various size rads and fans, power steering setup, etc, etc.
>>> >
>>> >So I am up for spending some money but I thought I would take suggestions
>>> >on which route to go.
>>> >
>>> >Expect a whole lot of more questions to come out in the next few months
>>> :)
>>> >
>>> >Cory Langford
>>> >'86 Roc turbo,
>>> >'78 Roc turbo - Daily driver project,
>>> >'65 Ghia Coupe
>>> >95 Eurovan, etc, etc... :)
>>> >
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