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Brake Failure (In garage not on the street)



Allyn,
I think that maybe the tranny internally was still in gear.  Now that I 
think of it I put it into reverse to make sure my light worked.  Which make 
sense the car would move in reverse find just not forward.

I should check if it rolls now that I moved it into the garage by using the 
starter.

What about the brake pedal going to the floor?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Allyn" <amalventano1@tds.net>
To: "'Brian Spinney'" <vw_85roccoZ400@hotmail.com>; "'Scirocco list'" 
<Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: Brake Failure (In garage not on the street)


> This sounds more like 2" of CV play and something sticking in the tranny 
> than brake failure.
>
> 1. Brakes don't fail 'on', especially where they were just 'off'.  There 
> is the odd rear caliper freezing with the e-brake on, but
> that generally happens when the car is outdoors for a long period of time, 
> with the handbrake engaged the entire time.
> 2. If a caliper was actually gripping a rotor, you would get absolutely no 
> motion (especially not 2").  There simply is not that
> much (0) play between the caliper carrier / brake rotor / wheel.
>
> I suspect possibly something in the tranny.  It may have actually been in 
> gear (unlikely I know), perhaps internally, as it rolled
> just fine with the starter.  Had it actually been brakes, it should have 
> been hard to move regardless of power source (you /
> starter).
>
> HTH
> Al
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brian Spinney [mailto:vw_85roccoZ400@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 10:25 AM
>> To: 'Scirocco list'
>> Subject: Brake Failure (In garage not on the street)
>>
>> Well I think my master cylinder finally shit the bed.  Last
>> night I was in the garage cleaning up and my Scirocco was in
>> the way so I lowered the e-brake and push it out a little all
>> was fine.  No problem moving.  So I put it into gear and go
>> about picking up my tool and cleaning up the floor.
>> Well its getting late so I go a push the car back in (yes I
>> took it out of
>> gear)  it moves about 2" and then locks up.
>>
>> I figure maybe it got stuck in gear so I go up front and the
>> linkage was all good and in neutral along with the shifter in
>> the car.  So I try it again, moves the same 2" and then locks up.
>>
>> I get it the car and pull the e-brake a few times thinking
>> that the cables are locked up.  Try pushing again same thing.
>>  But it wasn't the rear that felt locked but the fronts.  So
>> I go pump the brake pedal and it goes to the flow with no
>> pressure.  So I pump a few more times with the same pressure.
>>
>> Would this be a good sign that the master went bad?
>>
>> I ended up cranking the car over to move it into the garage
>> and even then it didn't want to move far.
>> -Brian
>>
>> 85 Scirocco 8vT       01 Jetta 20vT       84 Rabbit GTI
>>
>>
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