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front cross member bar - ripoff?



I would suggest the black forrest unit (not a terrible price really) or
others that are available on vortex.  I will not be making these again.

-- 
Eric
www.vintagewatercooleds.com

1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
1990 Fox Wagon 1.6 Heron Head 8v
1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)


raveracer77 said:
>     I want one.  Would you want to go back to making them again, or should
> I look into this Black Forest one?
>
>       Rave Racer
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>
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>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Eric S
>   To: David Winchell, II
>   Cc: 'Scirocco List'
>   Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 07:02 AM
>   Subject: RE: front cross member bar - ripoff?
>
>
>
>   Yep, that was me...honestly, its not like I patented it or anything, and
> I
>   quit making them some time ago.
>
>   This bar does most closely resemble my design, looks like it would do
> the
>   job!
>
>   --
>   Eric
>   www.vintagewatercooleds.com
>
>   1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
>   1990 Fox Wagon 1.6 Heron Head 8v
>   1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)
>
>
>   David Winchell, II said:
>   > It was Eric S.  And it does look just like his with the exception of
> the
>   > powder coating. IIRC, Eric was letting someone else from the vortex
> make
>   > them after he stopped.
>   >
>   > I'm sure Eric will post about it and give more details...
>   >
>   > Dave
>   >
>   > David Winchell, II
>   > 84 Scirocco BBS Turbo
>   > 79 Callaway Scirocco
>   > 04 .:R32 DBP
>   > 04 Mini Cooper S
>   > 00 Silverado
>   >
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: julie@menloparkrandd.com [mailto:julie@menloparkrandd.com]
>   > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:46 AM
>   > To: Nate Lowe; Scirocco List
>   > Subject: Re: front cross member bar - ripoff?
>   >
>   > Scott Rose IIRC. This thing is identical. After all of his hard work
>   > too...
>   >
>   >>-----Original Message-----
>   >>From: Nate Lowe [mailto:nlowe79@gmail.com]
>   >>Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:28 PM
>   >>To: 'Scirocco List'
>   >>Subject: front cross member bar - ripoff?
>   >>
>   >>I remember the front cross member bar that was made either by a lister
> or
>   >>someone on vortex (or both?) that was used to give support to stop
>   > cracking.
>   >>Well, I came across this today:
>   >>http://store.blackforestindustries.com/mkicrrebar.html which looks a
> hell
>   > of
>   >>a lot like the bar that was being sold before. I don't remember who
>   >> exactly
>   >>designed that bar, but if they didn't authorize its design then I'm
> sure
>   >>they'd like to know about this. Hopefully this is all me just being
> out
>   >> of
>   >>the loop about what happened with that bar's design, but I figured
> better
>   >>safe than sorry.
>   >>Nate
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