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[OT] eBay Advice Needed
EBay can be a crude place to do business! I use it from time to time,
mainly to buy parts.
Selling things get tricky and I been dicked around a few times. I've also
had someone post listing that where my items!
To you I say if it isn't going to hurt you account any just to drop it and
relist. If you clearly stated a time frame when payment was due and you
received no cash that is the buyers problem!
-Brian
85 Scirocco 8vT 01 Jetta 20vT 84 Rabbit GTI
86 Bronze Scirocco 8v
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Getty" <marc@getty.net>
To: "'Matt Gregory'" <vdub.grego@gmail.com>
Cc: <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:42 PM
Subject: RE: [OT] eBay Advice Needed
>I did the "I no longer wish to communicate with or wait for the buyer. With
> this option, the buyer receives an Unpaid Item strike, the seller receives
> a
> Final Value Fee credit, and the item is eligible for a relist credit."
> option. I don't need to spend any more time dealing with idiots.
>
> The funny thing is I'm fighting for my $2 item fee. All day I've been
> mumbling "two dollars" under my breath, fearing that the paper boy in
> Better
> Off Dead is chasing me!
>
> Back to your regular scheduled Scirocco hyjinx.
>
> -Marc
>
> _____
>
> From: Matt Gregory [mailto:vdub.grego@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 5:17 PM
> To: Marc Getty
> Cc: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: Re: [OT] eBay Advice Needed
>
>
> http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/unpaid-item-process.html
> "In the second case the seller must file the dispute for mutual
> withdrawal.
> If the buyer responds to the dispute and agrees, the seller will receive a
> Final Value Fee credit and no strike will be given to the buyer. If the
> buyer fails to respond, the seller can still close the dispute to receive
> a
> Final Value Fee credit, and the buyer will not receive an Unpaid Item
> strike."
>
> Sounds like he's deathly afraid of that "strike."
>
> I deal with French speakers on a daily basis and it doesn't appear to be a
> language issue. Where do you lose out doing one of those "mutual
> whatsitscalleds"?
>
> matt.
>
>
>
>
> On 12/11/06, Marc Getty <marc@getty.net> wrote:
>
>
> All,
>
> Any advice you can provide on the below auction that went awry? Both my
> French language and dealing with idiot skills are lacking these days.
>
> I was selling item:
> < <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190055910799>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190055910799>, which I
> think is a very well worked auction that could not be more clear.
>
> Item posted: Sun Nov-26-06 20:30:00 PST
> Item ended: Sun Dec-03-06 20:30:00 PST
>
> Question asked by buyer: Sun Dec-03-06 20:26:00 PST (4 minutes before
> action
> close)
>
> Content of question: Hi, how are you? It's a personal and private
> question,
> can you please do not put my quota (questions) into public listing, i
> really
>
> hate that. Thanks in adv. I want to know if you can ship to Canada BY USPS
> Airmail or Surface LETTER Post ONLY (Economical Rate) PLEASE No PARCEL,
> ONLY
> LETTER post, because I know it's weighting less than 4 pounds THAT can be
> allowed to pass if less than 4 pounds to ship with sm. package, see for
> USPS's URL website for information.
> http://ircalc.usps.gov/intl_speed.asp?CID=10054
> <http://ircalc.usps.gov/intl_speed.asp?CID=10054&MailType=package&Pounds=4&O
> u> &MailType=package&Pounds=4&Ou
> nces=0 Not UPS, Nor FedEx, I hate them SO MUCH. From USD Postal money
> order,
> or USD Hidden cash into paper to avoid see-through in the enveloppe.
> Please
> let me know ASAP, thanks.
>
> -----
>
> Needless to say I could not respond in the 4 minutes before auction close.
> Also, I don't take anything but PayPal, I don't ship to Canada, and the
> only
> acceptable shipping method is clearly stated in the auction. All of these
> clearly stated in the auction. After a week of non-payment I file a
> dispute
> hoping to get my $2.00 USD listing fee refunded. Below is the conversation
> in the dispute.
>
> -----
>
> eBay - Dec-11-06 at 05:34:18 PST
> An Unpaid Item dispute has been opened for the following item: 2 Seagate
> ST150176LW 7200 RPM 8.4 ms SCSI Hard Drives (#190055910799) Reason given
> for
> Unpaid Item: The buyer has not paid for the item. Buyer actions reported
> by
> seller: The buyer wants a payment method that I don't accept.
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 06:22:01 PST
> Seller doesn't understand my mistake, i told him to make a mutual
> agreement,
> he seems to want to abuse my account. i told him that was my mistake
> because
> i just found item 3 minutes left then he told me no international bid and
> on
>
> the ad ::: money order is THERE !!!!
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 06:25:20 PST
> i told him three times to do mutual agreement to get the final value fees,
> so i could see that he wants to abuse me (right-after-the-bid abuse). use
> his seller power to destruct me obviously, after told him is my mistake.
> CRUEL SELLER !!! DISHONEST !!!
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 06:36:37 PST
> AND Seller DID NOT PUT BUYER requirements to block international bidders,
> to
>
> block non-verified paypal buyer, if he didn't do it, that means HE WANTS
> TO
> ABUSE innoncent new ebayers !!! when did not do the block, that means he
> is
> abusive !!! HEY YOU < JUST DO BLOCK AS SELLER SET_UP TO BLOCK BUYERS !!!
>
> marcgetty - Dec-11-06 at 07:16:40 PST
> Buyer asked a long list of questions four minutes (no exaduration) before
> auction ended. I was unable to answer in time. The auction ended at
> Dec-03-06 20:30:00 PST, buyer asked question at Dec-03-06 20:26:00 PST.
> I'm
> sorry but I can't respond to 4 paragraph e-mails in 4 minutes.
>
> marcgetty - Dec-11-06 at 07:18:10 PST
> Buyer is from Canada where the auction specificly says I will only ship
> within the United States.
> Clearly stated in auction with a bullet point: "Only bids from within the
> United States will be
> accepted." Also, the eBay ships-to field is listed as United States only.
> I'm sorry but I will not
> ship these drives outside of the US.
>
> marcgetty - Dec-11-06 at 07:19:55 PST
> Buyer asked 4 minutes before auction close "From USD Postal money order,
> or
> USD Hidden cash into paper to avoid see-through in the enveloppe". As the
> auction clearly states "The only form of payment accepted is PayPal or
> cash
> in person if you arrange to pick them up in Philadelphia, PA." I asked the
> buyer if they would get a PayPal account and they refused.
>
> marcgetty - Dec-11-06 at 07:22:17 PST
> The auction states how shipping will be handled "The drives will be very
> well packed and sent via USPS priority mail. There is no charge for
> packing
> or handling, only for shipping." plus "If you arrange for pickup there is
> no
> discount for lack of packing/handling." lastly "Buyer pays exact USPS
> priority mail shipping charges." Buyer did not like the "high price" of
> USPS
> shipping to Canada and asked for alternate shipping "PLEASE No PARCEL,
> ONLY
> LETTER post" which I refuse to do.
>
> marcgetty - Dec-11-06 at 07:27:21 PST
> Buyer would not work with me to acquire a PayPal account or alternate
> shipping method to conform with the clearly stated auction requirements. I
> waited six full days and buyer continued to not work with me. I'm only
> filing a dispute to get my $2.00 listing fee back. I've since relisted the
> auction. My case is clear. An inexperienced eBayer made a long series of
> mistakes and was not willing to work with me on a solution. I've been
> using
> eBay 8 years and 5 months now with 262 positives!
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:31:29 PST
> TOLD YOU DONT HAVE PAYPAL !
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:32:13 PST
> COULD N T PICK IT UP I M FROM CANADA DUH- UH !!!
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:35:25 PST
> 8 YEARS, SHOME ON YA. YOU COULD PUT BUYER REQUIREMENTS BY BLOCKING ON
> SELLER SET-UP, IT S THE MOST IGNORANT SELLER THAT I EVER SEEN !!! I TOLD
> YOU
> THAT IT WAS A MISTAKE, DON T YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN !!! ESTIE
> DE
>
> CRISSE. JUST REMOVE THIS DISPUTE, I TOLD YOU YOU CAN DO IS MUTUAL
> AGREEMENT.
> IT S BEEN ONE MONTH THAT I M HERE, I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT SELLER SET-UP
> THAN YOU 8 YEARS SUCH AS TOO IGNORANT.
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:37:11 PST
> AWWW COME ON, LEAVE ME ALONE CRISSE DE COLISSE ! DO AS MUTUAL AGREEMENT
> YOU
> CAN GET FOR GRANTED YOUR FINAL VALUE FEES. YOU JUST KNOW VERY WELL WHAT I
> JUST MEANT, YOU RE SORRY FOR NOT ANSWERING MY EMAIL, WELL THAT IS YOUR
> F.MISTAKE.
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:38:45 PST
> YEAH LETTER POST DOE MEAN I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT ITEM WEIGHTS. BUYER AS
> ME
> IS TOO ADVANCED THAN YOU, I KNOW EVERYTHING. YOU DRIVE WEIGHTS LESS THAN
> 2.7
> POUNDS, LETTER POST IS MEANING LESS THAN 4 POUNDS IS ALLOWED TO SHIP IN
> SMALL PACKAGES
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:40:07 PST
> DISPUTE, YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT MUTUAL AGREEMENT IS MEANING YOU CAN GET
> LISTING
> FEES BACK ALSO, COME ON 8 YEARS COME ON !!! I TOLD YOU TO DO IS UNPAID
> ITEM
> MUTUAL AGREEMENT !!! INSTEAD OF DISPUTE !!!
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:40:50 PST
> I TOLD YOU THAT WAS MY MISTAKE FOR 3 MINUTES LEFTS , YOU OBVIOUSLY DID NOT
> UNDERSTAND MY F.ENGLISH !!!
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:40:50 PST
> YOU JUST DO HAVE IS BLOCK BUYER BY SELLER SET-UP
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:41:49 PST
> 8 YEARS, SHAME ON YOU, YOU DID NOT PUT SET UP IS MEANING YOU RE ABUSIVE,
> YOU
> LOVE TO DESTRUCT ACCOUNTS. NEW ACCOUNTS.
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:42:19 PST
> WELL I DONT BELIEVE YOU AT ALL. I CONSIDER YOU AS ABUSIVE SELLER AND
> NON-PERFOMANCE SELLER !!!
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:42:56 PST
> I TOLD YOU I CANNOT HAVE PAYPAL VERIFIED. NOR HAVING IT ALSO !!!
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:43:57 PST
> THAT WAS I ASKED YOU FOR THE FIRSIT EMAIL ABOUT PAYMENT METHOD, DON T ASK
> ME
> WHY, MY QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO RESPOND IMMEDIATELY TO
> QUESTIONS WHILE ITEMS SOON ENDS !!!
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:44:25 PST
> YOU COULD STICK YOUR BUTT ON YOUR COMPUTER ALL THE TIME, UNDERSTOOD !!!
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:48:50 PST
> OH I DID EMAILED YOU FOR NOTHING, I TOLD YOU THREE OR FOUR TIMES DO YOUR
> UNPAID ITEM MUTUAL AGREEMENT THEN YOU LL GET THE FREE LISTING, DONT BE AN
> ANALRETENTIVE TO ME, YOU KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO YOUR, CONSIDER IT AS A
> FINAL CONVERSATION, I DONT HAVE TIME FOR AN ABUSIVE SELLER AS YOU. JUST
> MOVE
>
> YOUR BUTT TO GET MUTUAL AGREEMENT INSTEAD !!!
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:50:01 PST
> I ADMITTED I DID A MISTAKE ! HE DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IS AN ADMITTED MISTAKE,
> I
> ADMITTED THE FIRST THING THAT WAS MY MISTAKE, HE CONTINUES TO HARRASS ME
> AS
> HELL
>
> darodavian - Dec-11-06 at 07:53:54 PST
> ALORS DECRISSE !
>
> -----
>
> After 16 crazy comments from the deabeat buyer I'm at a loss and I don't
> know how to respond. A wise man once told me "never argue with an idiot,
> people watching may not be able to tell the difference."
>
> User has sent all messages from 24.203.69.245 /
> modemcable245.69-203-24.mc.videotron.ca
> <http://modemcable245.69-203-24.mc.videotron.ca> .
>
> Help?
>
> -Marc
>
>
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