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front cross member bar - ripoff?

    I want one.  Would you want to go back to making them again, or should I look into this Black Forest one?

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Eric S 
  To: David Winchell, II 
  Cc: 'Scirocco List' 
  Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 07:02 AM
  Subject: RE: front cross member bar - ripoff?



  Yep, that was me...honestly, its not like I patented it or anything, and I
  quit making them some time ago.

  This bar does most closely resemble my design, looks like it would do the
  job!

  -- 
  Eric
  www.vintagewatercooleds.com

  1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
  1990 Fox Wagon 1.6 Heron Head 8v
  1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)


  David Winchell, II said:
  > It was Eric S.  And it does look just like his with the exception of the
  > powder coating. IIRC, Eric was letting someone else from the vortex make
  > them after he stopped.
  >
  > I'm sure Eric will post about it and give more details...
  >
  > Dave
  >
  > David Winchell, II
  > 84 Scirocco BBS Turbo
  > 79 Callaway Scirocco
  > 04 .:R32 DBP
  > 04 Mini Cooper S
  > 00 Silverado
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: julie@menloparkrandd.com [mailto:julie@menloparkrandd.com]
  > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:46 AM
  > To: Nate Lowe; Scirocco List
  > Subject: Re: front cross member bar - ripoff?
  >
  > Scott Rose IIRC. This thing is identical. After all of his hard work
  > too...
  >
  >>-----Original Message-----
  >>From: Nate Lowe [mailto:nlowe79@gmail.com]
  >>Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:28 PM
  >>To: 'Scirocco List'
  >>Subject: front cross member bar - ripoff?
  >>
  >>I remember the front cross member bar that was made either by a lister or
  >>someone on vortex (or both?) that was used to give support to stop
  > cracking.
  >>Well, I came across this today:
  >>http://store.blackforestindustries.com/mkicrrebar.html which looks a hell
  > of
  >>a lot like the bar that was being sold before. I don't remember who
  >> exactly
  >>designed that bar, but if they didn't authorize its design then I'm sure
  >>they'd like to know about this. Hopefully this is all me just being out
  >> of
  >>the loop about what happened with that bar's design, but I figured better
  >>safe than sorry.
  >>Nate
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