front cross member bar - ripoff?

[dswalterwi at gmail.com (Don Walter)]

My son and I are working on a design for his.  It will use the same
principle but be a bit different.

On 12/11/06, raveracer77 <raveracer77@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>    I want one.  Would you want to go back to making them again, or should
> I look into this Black Forest one?
>
>      Rave Racer
> Currently:
> NEW!!  91 Jetta GLI 2.0L 16V
> '81 Scirocco Mk1 1.8L 8V Digifant 2
>
> '89 Jetta GTX 1.8L 16V
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric S
> To: David Winchell, II
> Cc: 'Scirocco List'
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 07:02 AM
> Subject: RE: front cross member bar - ripoff?
>
>
>
> Yep, that was me...honestly, its not like I patented it or anything, and I
> quit making them some time ago.
>
> This bar does most closely resemble my design, looks like it would do the
> job!
>
> --
> Eric
> www.vintagewatercooleds.com
>
> 1981 Scirocco S (TDI swap project)
> 1990 Fox Wagon 1.6 Heron Head 8v
> 1991 Cabriolet (2.0 crossflow 8v project)
>
>
> David Winchell, II said:
> > It was Eric S.  And it does look just like his with the exception of the
> > powder coating. IIRC, Eric was letting someone else from the vortex make
> > them after he stopped.
> >
> > I'm sure Eric will post about it and give more details...
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > David Winchell, II
> > 84 Scirocco BBS Turbo
> > 79 Callaway Scirocco
> > 04 .:R32 DBP
> > 04 Mini Cooper S
> > 00 Silverado
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: julie@menloparkrandd.com [mailto:julie@menloparkrandd.com]
> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 6:46 AM
> > To: Nate Lowe; Scirocco List
> > Subject: Re: front cross member bar - ripoff?
> >
> > Scott Rose IIRC. This thing is identical. After all of his hard work
> > too...
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Nate Lowe [mailto:nlowe79@gmail.com]
> >>Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 10:28 PM
> >>To: 'Scirocco List'
> >>Subject: front cross member bar - ripoff?
> >>
> >>I remember the front cross member bar that was made either by a lister
> or
> >>someone on vortex (or both?) that was used to give support to stop
> > cracking.
> >>Well, I came across this today:
> >>http://store.blackforestindustries.com/mkicrrebar.html which looks a
> hell
> > of
> >>a lot like the bar that was being sold before. I don't remember who
> >> exactly
> >>designed that bar, but if they didn't authorize its design then I'm sure
> >>they'd like to know about this. Hopefully this is all me just being out
> >> of
> >>the loop about what happened with that bar's design, but I figured
> better
> >>safe than sorry.
> >>Nate
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Don Walter - Waukesha, WI
1986 8V Black Scirocco (Daily Driver)
1984 8V Audi 4000s (RIP 2/14/2006)
1986 2.0L 16V TEC 2 Black Scirocco (see progress at
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/708939)
1986 2L 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (Ben's Car)
1988 1.8 16V Toronado Red Scirocco (sold on 3/29/04)
1984 1.8 8V Pewter Scirocco (sold years ago)
1971 Karman Ghia (sold)
1969 Karman Ghia (sold)
1969 Beetle (sold)