was:I guess Now: New 'Roc

[vw_85roccoZ400 at hotmail.com (Brian Spinney)]

<I think VW did a nice job with the beetle.>

Well look at the difference between an older Beetle and a Scirocco!  Look at 
the A4 classic which the beetle are built on aren't they alot just a little 
bit rounder than Volkswagen in the past.  I mean come on how hard was it to 
design the new Beetle when Volkswagen was already turning everything round 
anyway!  It seems to me that it only made sense for Volkswagen to bring back 
the Bug when they did.  I think it was well planned by Volkswagen to do it 
that way.

But when you looks at the A1 which in most cases were boxes on wheels, and 
you try bring back names from the past with VW new design it just doesn't 
work, period. As a Scirocco & Rabbit owner, I know that it isn't the name 
that got me hooked on these car, but its the looks and styling that drags me 
in and that why I get upset with the idea of Volkswagen bring back the old 
names.

Hell I actually think the car looks pretty cool, but as for it being a 
Scirocco NO!  I really dig the front end and I think it looks way better 
than anything Volkswagen came out with lately on their new models.  The 
upper wing thing on the back is alittle much for me.  I am not sure I would 
ever buy one but I will have to drive one for sure anyway.

Just think how many A1 Scirocco you could buy for that price!

-Brian
85 Scirocco 8vT       01 Jetta 20vT       84 Rabbit GTI

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Armand Engelbrecht" <macboy@sgi.net>
To: <roccit_53@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca>; "Mtl-Marc" 
<marc_scirocco@sympatico.ca>
Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: was:I guess Now: New 'Roc


> Cathy,
> You make some very valid points, but I would have to disagree with you on
> the point of the 70's designs being gone. The designers at both chrysler 
> and
> ford have don't (I think anyway) a wonderful job with cars such as the
> challenger concept, the new mustang, and even the thunderbird. Companies
> such as GM are on par with vw by putting out garbage such as the camaro.
> There are people out there who can update the the earlier cars. I think VW
> did a nice job with the beetle.
>
> On 8/25/06 7:39 AM, "C Boyko" <roccit_53@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca> wrote:
>
>> I'm commenting before I read the list's opinions.
>> First- What did you expect? It isn't the 70's baby, and the days of 
>> simple
>> beauty are long gone. Other than the handful of us here who own and love
>> the originals, how big IS the market for what the general public 
>> perceives
>> as a German Chevette? Sorry to be so blunt, but not everyone loves the
>> angularity and pared down good looks of our cars. So to expect the new 
>> one
>> to resemble the old is just not gonna happen. VW's on a curve-fest, 
>> smooth
>> and rounded lines (and a big ugly mouth) are the identifiers of this
>> generation, why should the Scirocco be different?
>> Second- IROC??? WTF, and why is Chevy sleeping on this? Certainly they 
>> have
>> some legal right to the name, I just see Camaro. So I guess it's full
>> circle for me anyway, maybe it'll take the Firebird's place in the 
>> garage.
>> Next the Rabbit will have a Trams Am version with a flying Rabbit on the
>> hood.
>> Third- What of the weight??? Suspension? Throw me a bone here...I know 
>> it's
>> a concept, but if it pays any shred of homage to the Scirocco, that means
>> agility.
>> Fourth- I see some bright work and I want it painted black. Yep, a
>> judicious application of black or anthracite paint on that gaudy metal 
>> work
>> would go a long way towards putting this car in my driveway. If this were
>> an RX8 we'd think nothing of it, but this is a German car dammit. Or is 
>> it
>> Portugese? :)
>> Fifth- I'm gonna need a car, my "new car" is seven now. The new GTI 
>> doesn't
>> initially appeal to me either, but I've been told by every one who's been
>> near one that I need to try one and then cast an opinion. That in fact
>> they're really nice. So this one may be too.
>> I await the opinion of a fellow 16V owner who is there for the "Great
>> Unveiling" (lucky bitch), and a chance to see/drive one. I mean, what am 
>> I
>> gonna buy, the Newer New Beetle? If it has a happy engine and the 
>> handling
>> to support it, that's what counts. (and the price tag, of course)
>> I'll want to see one in the flesh. In a different colour....hopefully
>> they'll tone it down some.
>> Cathy
>>
>>
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