starting points for jetta problems aka I hate cars

[sharpshooter33 at adelphia.net (David Brown)]

I've renamed my 8V Jetta to VolksWeenie. I'm from the Cincy area so I guess 
it's the Big Red Volks Weenie!

You know I can't help but smile...Thinking of the VW "Unpimp my Ride" 
commercial where the mad german engineer says "Vdub holding it down on the 
engineering U'all"  Make's me think yea the wiring engineering! 8-)

I'll try to get some pic's of the offending wire if anyone needs to see it 
and trace it down.

David

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C Boyko" <roccit_53@scirocco.cs.uoguelph.ca>
To: "David Brown" <sharpshooter33@adelphia.net>
Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: starting points for jetta problems aka I hate cars


> On 2:06:34 pm 04/22/06 "David Brown" <sharpshooter33@adelphia.net> wrote:
>> AHHH  HA! Found it! it connects to the (NTC) Temperature
>> Control.(Bentley's page 86 track 28) That's pretty scary when we cite
>> Bentley's pages like Bible verse. 8-)
>>   Wonder how that would cause the rough idle?  I could understand
>> when it's warm because it would read low and rich the mixture, but
>> why when it's going from cold start?
>>
>> Oh well at least it's running. 8-)
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Brown" <sharpshooter33@adelphia.net>
>> To: "scirocco scirocco" <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 1:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: starting points for jetta problems aka I hate cars
>>
>>
>> >  Bingo!!!  I hate cars!
>> >  I got under the hood today just to see what I could see and check
>> >  the gas in the jetta thinking maybe it was bad gas...and what to
>> >  my wondering eye would appear.  I broken wire connected to the
>> >  intake manifold where lot's of brown wires are grounded.  Didn't
>> >  think much of it since my wiring in the Jetta was FUBAR by the
>> >  previous owner.  Well the car was idling bad and missing and when
>> >  I touched the broken ground to it's mate...Bingo! idling just
>> >  fine. Well I pulled the wire replaced the end piece, started it up
>> > and ran it down the road!!! Problem fixed.
>> >  WTF?  This little wire caused all the problems! Second ground
>> >  problem I've ran into this month that has caused me to pull my
>> >  hair out!!!(hey wait a minute I ain't got no hair)
>> >
>> >  Ok the offending wire was a brown/blue ground wire.  Only one I've
>> >  found so far in the Bentleys is a connection to the "Pressure
>> >  Gradient Valve" What does that do?
>> >
>> >  Evidently if that's it, it can cause the car to run like KaKah!
>> >
>> >  I'll look further and see if there is more Brown/Blue wires in the
>> >  diagram. It connected to ground on the intake manifold and ran
>> >  into a cluster, but didn't have time to chase it down today.
>> >
>> >  Later
>> >  David
>> >  86 16v Rocc turbo
>> >  86 16v Rocc awaiting face lift
>> >  84 8v Rocc Wolfie organ donor
>> >  86 8v Jetta WOW! daily driver again. 8-)
>
> Well, guess what? So, I go to move Klaus, my beloved 79, who has had
> bizzarro running issues for the past two years, despite changing
> EVERYTHING. Anyways, get in, turn the key, and nothing. No buzz, no crank,
> no nothing. Battery's a bit low maybe, but I should get something. So I
> swap the battery, and off to my own session of "wiggly jiggly", and it's
> something in the fuel pump relay connection. So back there again, I mean,
> hell, I did this once. Or twice, or five times. Anyway, it made me think 
> of
> my advice to you, or I think it was you. And maybe I have find the root of
> my problems, if that's it, I'm gonna kill myself. Not really, but you get
> the idea. I'm always prone to suspect electrical anyways, but I'd tested
> and tested...and now this nonsense.
> Cathy
>
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