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That 26k Mk2 on Ebay - SOLD for $8,300!!!
I have printed out this ebay auction for my files. Here's why:
When I was rear-ended ("sandwiched", rather) two years ago, I of course
went through all the rigamarole of trying to prove to the other guy's
insurance that my car was in "Premium, show-quality" condition. At
first they offered me a high blue book (US ~$2500) but I say no way... I
spent a week putting together a *nice* binder full of pics, receipt
tallies, repair and purchase documents, aftermarket goodies, and lots
of .org classified listings. I highlighted the top-dollar Sciroccos and
parts offered for sale to justify my position. This was not merely a
jumble of papers; it was made to be "presented" to the insurace co. and
even contained a short introductory essay that I wrote describing how
people like us call ourselves "Scirocco Nuts" (noun or adjective, take
your pick). They even sent out an independent appraiser to look at my
damaged goods. In the end they offered just over US $4K, which not only
did I take, but was just a tad over my original purchase price as well
(not including the shipping from CT to OR). I bought the salvage back
for US $66.00 (no joke!) and then promptly dumped all that money into
getting it put back together.
I'm _almost_ back to where I want to have the car appraised again - this
time with the car looking stellar. But all those documents and pics
generated from the new resto go into that file, and I think that ebay
auction printout will add nicely to the collection the _next_ time I'm
sandwiched!
- Camron from Vancouver, WA USA
'86.5 Black 16V 2.0L
ron@bunch.org wrote:
> I abandoned early Pontiac V8s, several Corvairs, new-mint 65 and 69
> GTOs and Porsches, then watched them cross the curve and begin to
> appreciate. Yes, they are only worth what anyone is willing to pay for
> them.
> Ironically, the people who love them the most sometimes (but not
> always) discover they have enough disposable money to maybe treat
> themselves to an honest low mileage example and enjoy it rather than
> spending their lives under the car.
> The most I ever paid for any vehicle was just over $34K for a new full
> up 99 Suburban. I don't have that money now, but four 87-88 Roccos
> with only 1-2 years miles on them would have been a better investment,
> because they are not likely to depreciate henceforth, at least not
> based on years.
>
> Perhaps the Scirocco's time has finally come to cross the hump.
>
>
> At 01:16 PM 3/27/04 +0000, C Boyko wrote:
>
>> Well I for one am happy to see the prices rise a bit. If you get your
>> car appraised, ( and I strongly advise that you do if it's decent),
>> then these sales may just enter into the data bank used by the
>> appraisers to figure out what our cars are worth. I'm not sure where
>> all they get the data from, but the current sale price is one of the
>> inputs mentioned by my appraiser. And online auctions would certainly
>> be an easy source for them to access. Having said that, it's too rich
>> for my blood, but a used car is worth exactly what the buyer is
>> willing to pay. Or what the insurance company writes it off at. No
>> more, no less.
>> OTOH, there are lots of good used ones out there for a LOT less.
>> Happy shopping...
>> Cathy
>>
>>
>>> From: ron@bunch.org
>>> To: "Rhett Farnum" <rocco_crossing@hotmail.com>,scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>>> Subject: Re: That 26k Mk2 on Ebay - SOLD for $8,300!!!
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 21:50:36 -0500
>>>
>>> Having listened to all of the reasons why someone shouldn't pay
>>> $8,300 for a 26K mile 88' 16V, I'll say this.
>>> I'd have considered if I hadn't won the bid on an 82 911SC Targa
>>> last month on Ebay for much more than that. One owner, all
>>> documentation. No misrepresentations, original paint in better
>>> condition than our same color 83' coupe.
>>> "Cave ate the emporer" is fair warning, yes.
>>> But, considering if it was really a 26K mile 88' 16V, $8,300 is ball
>>> park.
>>> Leftists/Socialists are excused from the following real money
>>> excercise but!
>>> Try your own numbers at http://www.westegg.com/inflation/
>>> Based on the more than $16,000 cost of a 16V in 1988, that same car
>>> new would have been at least $24,322.15 in 2002. (To remind people
>>> who debate only in feelings rather than reality, that was 2 years
>>> ago, so 2004 would be more. Sorry, the free calculator only goes
>>> through 2002 and I don't want to tax anyone.I'll leave that to John
>>> Kerry.)
>>> If the car on Ebay really had 26,000 miles, what would it have been
>>> worth with that mileage in late 1989, if you called that 2 years of
>>> wear?
>>> For this exercise, let's call it $11,000.I say that because I paid
>>> that for a same vintage/mileage 88 16V Scirocco in 1989. Honest
>>> Injun! (Sorry, not PC)
>>> The (inflation only) calculator says that what I paid $11,000 for
>>> in 1989 would cost $16,062.90 in 2002. Again, 2002 was 2 years ago.
>>> Discounting bogus bidding, which is certainly a possibility but none
>>> of you can PROVE, maybe somebody got a really good deal.
>>> Considering finding a real 26K mile 88 16V, maybe we all missed
>>> something.
>>> There are snakes on Ebay, but each sale requires they rooted
>>> out.I've dug up and run off a few . That's what it takes, to
>>> challenge them.
>>> But, in this case, absent real fraud, I wouldn't crow.
>>>
>>> At 06:46 PM 3/25/04 -0600, Rhett Farnum wrote:
>>>
>>>> A friend of mine is selling his 87 16V for ~$6K. It is in BEAUTIFUL
>>>> condition!!!! Better than most untouched roccos!! Second owner. If
>>>> you want more info let me know.
>>>>
>>>> oh and this is in IOWA.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Peace Out,
>>>> Rhett
>>>> Rocco_crossing
>>>> '83 Rocco (DEAD!!) :-( Now what to do???
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Euroroc II <flaatr@yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: "Mark" <mardak@cogeco.ca>,<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: That 26k Mk2 on Ebay - SOLD for $8,300!!!
>>>>> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 13:50:20 -0800
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I believe it!!!
>>>>> Nice car.
>>>>> -Raffi
>>>>>
>>>>> At 01:10 PM 3/25/2004, Mark wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you believe someone paid $8,300 for a Scirocco!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Holy crap - 26k or not, that's a hell of a lot of money for that
>>>>>> car...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark.
>>>>>> 75
>>>>>> 80 S
>>>>>> 81 S 2.0 ABA/JH/4K
>>>>>>
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