ATS REPLIES...REAL LONG !!! was: ATS and his site and hisherd gone ???

[flaatr at yahoo.com (Raffi)]

Patrick... Why are you still here? Log off... end the list mail and go away!

Allyn, Don't bother trying to make sense of it... he did what he did and 
let's just be glad to be rid of him... his self importance was annoying, 
his teknotes were vague and inaccurate (but good for a laugh). He took 
credit for shit he didn't come up with... over all his move away from 
Scirocco's to something else is a blessing... now I have a reason to go to 
Cincy (one of the reasons I never wanted to go will not be there next year).

Our insignificant loss is the Honda communities gain! Maybe he'll put his 
effort into a dodge orange Civic with piss-yellow tint with ultra high 
performance Gabriel shocks and a host of other Pep-Boys performance parts!

New filters installed... all email from Patrick or with ATS in the subject 
will be deleted... Glad it's over

Tired of this shit!
-Raffi


At 09:23 AM 7/25/2004, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:
>-- From Allyn -----
>- yes, in my opinion, you screwed the list. you dumped roccos while others
>try their hardest to save them. you simply yanked tech info that other
>listers may have come to depend on. c'mon patrick, you have to imagine at
>least *some* of the list is going to think those actions are selfish on your
>
>part.
>-----------
>
>I completely undermine everyone on the list...??
>
>You know your amusing at times Allyn, the said Junker cars that I spend 800$
>of my money to buy, strip and sell parts to lister/ebay, makes me "undermine
>the list and its owners"?
>
>I undermined the owners of the salvageable MkI's doors, fenders, hood,
>glass, gauges, etc... I undermined the actions of members of this list, by
>providing them with parts they can use to save THEIR cars from the rotting
>shells I own. I undermined?? I would think I provided with a way for them to
>save 10 cars per rotten shell I stripped. Your logic does not add up Allyn.
>
>Amusing indeed to assume you know my life, my actions and blatantly decide
>that my new actions are to be reprimanded by you. Get a grip Allyn. You are
>not God of scirocco, nor even god of this list.
>
>Heck by your admission you have not even read/viewed my tech notes, and
>should automatically disqualify you from making ANY comments.
>
>You ask me to listen to myself in your post. You do actually realize you
>just stated that;
>
>a) I can do what ever I want with my property.
>
>b) State I am undermining , through my actions (i.e. getting rids of rotten,
>rusted chassis) will affect ANYONE on this list...
>
>c) If the dedication to save these cars was so strong, people would of
>bought these cars that were for sale for over 6 months, BEFORE I grabbed the
>lot of them, so please, the dedication to your vehicle may be one thing, but
>to grab rust-buckets, rotten MkI's from a field, if a far cry from
>destroying cars that where possible to restore.
>
>So please spare me the rhetoric's of you must save the Scirocco's from the
>scrap yards.
>
>Please wake up, your "you leaving and scrapping cars are a bad move and your
>punishing everyone on the list" attitude is rather childish.
>
>I can do what I want with my property, and keeping 6 rotting Scirocco's on
>my property is not what I would call "saving a car", not to mention the
>local authorities that rather frown upon "scrap yard @ homes".
>
>The content of my web site is actually work based, on my car, not on yours
>or anyone else's sorry you are completely wrong in your assumption I owe you
>(not that you ever care to read any of them as you mention) or anyone else
>anything, if my hobby has provided informative and support, then I am happy
>it helped another owner of these cars.
>
>I did not want to GIVE to the community; I built a web site, so? What's your
>point? I wanted to learn Html and the car was a good catalyst to motivate me
>to do it, it was yet another hobby like the Scirocco's is to me, a HOBBY,
>not base my LIFE around it.
>
>That many found answers in my hobby web site, great! I am happy to have
>indirectly helped someone to work on their car.
>
>But if they really cared to learn how to repair and restore their car, they
>should buy a Bentley, read it, instead of looking for answers on my web
>site, they would learn what the cars are about, instead of repeating
>questions, not searching answer on .org archives, but demand them over and
>over on the vortex and this list.
>
>--------------------------------------
>ATS - Patrick Bureau - Canuck in Texas
>
>
>
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