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Was ATS REPLIES, now "Peace, friends, please..."






Allyn, Patrick,
  I am going to go out on a limb here and try to identify what I really
think is going on, each of you feel free to tell me where I am offf, where I
am way off, and where I am on the money...

  Patrick, I think the biggest reason why Allyn is mad (as well as a few
others) is because you did not tell the list first, or directly of what your
intentions were.  Although I just joined about six months ago, it appears
that many consider you a pillar of this community, and a leader in the
restoration of these cars (at the very least in will).  Now we discover that
all these cars have gone, and there is little way to regain what you had
(cheaply).  I think Allyn is upset that you did not come to the list and
say, hey, I am tired of these cars, and I am getting weary of all the
inquiries for what to do when, etc., I am getting out.  This would make
everyone aware of the severity of the situation, that the heard was headed
for slaughter.  To be short, I think Allyn feels most betrayed because of
the lack of communication.

  Allyn, I think Pat has had some major reality-shifts in his life lately,
for whatever reason.  He may or may not feel obligated to inform the list of
what he has been dealing with for any number of a thousand reasons.  While I
will not pretend that I know the cause, I will offer the possibility that
there is the possibility that the reasons may be truly personal.  This is a
big list.  Airing ones' dirty laundry here in this forum is not high on my
list of things to do.  He may or may not chose to share what he has been
dealing with here lately, and with some of the upset posts that have been
aimed at him, I am not sure that I can blame him.

  Both of you, please remember the first rule of email listserves...  This
is first and foremost the worst method on the planet to try to effectively
communicate feelings.  Facts and figures, rules and procedures, sure.  But
this is the worst way to have an argument.  We have all seem the flame wars
that start on here and elsewhere.  They are almost always based on
miscommunication, which is why I step in here, prolly where I am not
wanted...  I do however hate to see the miscommunication go on, especially
while I think I have an idea of what is really the issues at hand.  I have
no idea of how close you two were on the list prior to this, but I would
hope that you both would agree to try to fill in some of the gaps that you
both definitely seem to be encounteing from one another...

  I will shut up if asked to, but there is so much turmoil in the world
these days, I can't sit here and not say what I think may help...

Peace,
  David