VW Dealership

[pilotlars at yahoo.com (Lars Bruchmann)]

wow, high tech!!!  that's about 50 years past what i
have in my mk1 scirocco!!  but today, as i was driving
through a wicked lightning storm.. i thought to myself
that even if the bomb hits, my ignition would still
work!!  i'll be charging a lot for rides!
--- Shannon <16volt@cablespeed.com> wrote:

> Coilpack = Distributerless Ignition, also in some
> cars like the 1.8T called
> coil on plug. Depends on the coil pack layout. 
> 
> Spark is generated with a magnetic field around a
> coil and the ECU send a
> signal to collapse the field creating spark at your
> spark plug. Timing and
> spark strength and duration is controlled by the ECU
> for the most part.
> That's in in 30 seconds.
> 
> Heres a coil pack:
> http://www.scirocco16v.com/tech_gallery/P2290065.jpg
> 
> http://www.scirocco16v.com/tech/dta_install.htm
> 
> Shannon
> www.scirocco16v.com
> Now with vitamin T!
>  
>  
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org] On Behalf
> Of Lars Bruchmann
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 8:52 PM
> To: Brian; David Utley
> Cc: Daun Yeagley; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> Subject: RE: VW Dealership
> 
> hi, i drive a 1979 'rocco, with the original 1.6 low
> output (high vibration and high noise output)
> engine,
> non electronic ignition with no catalytic
> converter..
> and no emission control at all.. so maybe i'm a bit
> behind the times.. but what the dickens is a coil
> pack??  and why do they cost as much as my rent???
> --- Brian <brianm@earendel.org> wrote:
> 
> > So Now I have an unnamed individual complaining
> that
> > the coilpacks dont 
> > work worth a crapola with an aftermarket EMS, and
> VW
> > charging $600 to 
> > replace 4 coilpacks. damn I could make a fortune
> > replacing the std crappy 
> > VW ones with a GM setup... or hell 4 original vw
> > coils and bosch008 
> > modules...
> > I'd only charge... $500...
> > hehehe...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, David Utley wrote:
> > 
> > > Tonee,
> > >   I will offer a few comments, if only to serve
> as
> > a bit of a sounding board
> > > and so much as an employee of another (ahem)
> > dealership...  :)
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> > > [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On
> Behalf
> > Of Tonee Northam
> > > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 11:10 PM
> > > To: Daun Yeagley
> > > Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > Subject: VW Dealership
> > > 
> > > They told me the loose air intake boot
> (bullshit)
> > was the cause for the
> > > check engine light and "emmisions workshop"
> > message.
> > > 
> > > I respect your opinion, however, what makes you
> > think that this is not
> > > possible?  I am assuming that the car in
> question
> > is some version of an A4
> > > platform...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > And that the driver's side seat airbag needed to
> > be completely replaced for
> > > $720.
> > > 
> > > Today, this get's better...................
> > > 
> > > For some odd reason they "said" they check the
> > coil pack by spraying water
> > > on it, stating that it was arching. I didn't ask
> > them to check that. $600 to
> > > replace. Last time I checked I was born on
> > 11-26-69 at 0430, not fckn
> > > yesturday.
> > > Is this a Passat?  I do not know of any coil
> that
> > is that high.  The
> > > amplifier for the Passat however is 450.00 or
> > so...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > When I inspected the engine bay around the coil
> > pack, dust and dirt
> > > everywhere. Not one thing showed the removal of
> > the engine cover to get to
> > > the coil pack. Water seems to magically turn
> into
> > dust and dirt only in a
> > > dealership service department, I think I found
> > David Copperfield!
> > > 
> > > Yeah, that is a new one on me, although the
> > reasoning is sound.  The
> > > evidence would be enough for me to question them
> > as well however...
> > > 
> > > The "new" or should I say "original" airbag
> > diagnosis shows "airbag inflator
> > > resistance to high, sporatic. The last time I
> > checked "resistance" had to do
> > > with "electricity".
> > > Yes, this is true.  However, we do on occasion
> > replace airbags because
> > > despite the use of a new harness, there is still
> > too much resistance in the
> > > line to the airbag.  The light stays on if it is
> > passed a certain
> > > resistance, and sometimes the only way to fix it
> > is to replace it.  This is
> > > one of the reasons why I drive a twenty year old
> > car, it will still be at
> > > least semi-functional in another twenty (my
> > two-cents)...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > They also found a wire that leads up to the
> > seatbelt lock that was severed,
> > > so they stated was the main culprit. My hair
> would
> > never turn blonde even if
> > > I lived in the desert!
> > > We replace the harness to the side airbags and
> the
> > seatbelt receivers (the
> > > severed wire you mentioned) quite often.  Folks
> > move the seats back and
> > > forth as if they were in front of the dinner
> > table, not realizing that all
> > > this movement makes those harnesses go out... 
> > Granted, if VW were smart,
> > > they would have made those wires braided, but
> that
> > would have prolly raised
> > > the resistance and therefore defeated its'
> > purpose...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So after charging me another $95 to find out
> that
> > I now need, oh, let's
> > > see.........
> > > 
> > > Coil Pack...$600
> > > 02 Sensor..$132
> > > Seat belt wire...$40
> > > Airbag wire harness...$60
> > > MAF Sensor....Free
> > > ..........................................
> > > $832 plus $190 (2-diagnosis) for finding out
> what
> > I'm really not to sure.
> > > 
> > > So, tomorrow is going to be eventful when my
> > "file" with VWOA is updated.
> > > 
> > > WAR is never really over, and I've got alot of
> > time right now and nothing to
> > > do.
> > > 
> > > Hey Cathy, I'm almost getting as long as your
> > emails. hehe
> > > 
> > > Very pissed off individual,
> > > 
> > > Tonee
> > > 
> > > I can sympathize man, but unfortunately, these
> are
> > all very common repairs
> 
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