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frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)



LOL!
  It won't hurt you, Cathy.
:)
Larry
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: C Boyko 
  To: txrocco@sbcglobal.net ; ansonivan@yahoo.com ; rapieper@yahoo.com ; scirocco-l@scirocco.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:47 PM
  Subject: RE: frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)


  Damn, once again, the guys get to have all the fun...
  Cathy, too scared to drink milk now...


  >From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
  >To: "Anson Clement" <ansonivan@yahoo.com>, "Ron Pieper" 
  ><rapieper@yahoo.com>,<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
  >Subject: RE: frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)
  >Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:57:13 -0500
  >
  >remember if it is the glass type of milk bottle, they ae not pyrex, so 
  >apply
  >heat slowly...(dont want any chards yanno :)0
  >
  >
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  >
  >=>-----Original Message-----
  >=>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
  >=>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Anson Clement
  >=>Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:20 AM
  >=>To: Ron Pieper; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
  >=>Subject: Re: frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)
  >=>
  >=>
  >=>crap!.... so much for screwing milk bottles..... er I mean.... hehe
  >=>
  >=>Anson
  >=>
  >=>Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com> wrote:
  >=>Na...
  >=>
  >=>Heat expands stuff...the bolt gets bigger, BUT so does the hole.
  >=>And, since the threaded hole is
  >=>a bit bigger than the bolt, it WILL become looser.
  >=>
  >=>And the heat serves but burn dirt, rust etc. which helps too.
  >=>
  >=>Larry will confirm this, I'm sure.
  >=>
  >=>Ron
  >=>
  >=>
  >=>--- Dan Bubb wrote:
  >=>> So, far Anson has THE BEST reply to the frozen crankshaft bolt 
  >question!
  >=>> Graphic! But, clearly the most original!
  >=>>
  >=>> ----- Original Message -----
  >=>> From: "Anson Clement"
  >=>> To:
  >=>> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:59 AM
  >=>> Subject: Re: frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)
  >=>>
  >=>>
  >=>> > Holy crap guy! Will you stop heating the bolt already? Heat causes
  >=>> expansion yes? so in effect you are making a bad situation
  >=>badder.... or is
  >=>> that worser..... whatever.
  >=>> >
  >=>> > What you described is similar to sticking your willy in a
  >=>milk jug (or for
  >=>> those less blessed, a beer bottle) and watching footage of
  >=>britney spears
  >=>> make out with madona..... yea I guess that might not work for
  >=>some.... but
  >=>> anyways you get the idea..... willy swell no come out of bottle.
  >=>> >
  >=>> > Where was I? ......
  >=>> >
  >=>> > Anson
  >=>> >
  >=>> > Dave wrote:
  >=>> > There are lots of great "stuck crankshaft sprocket bolt" solutions
  >=>> available on this site especially the "crankshaft seal fun!"
  >=>threads, and
  >=>> believe me, I tried each and every one, but I cannot get the
  >=>motherf.uh, I
  >=>> mean, the gosh darn thing off!
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > Its a 1984 'rocco with a 1.8.
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > Here's what I've tried so far, each of them with and without liberal
  >=>> applications of heat and blood.
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > 1. Factory stock breaker bar, oil pan off and crankshaft locked with 
  >a
  >=>> block of wood between crank counterweights and the side of the
  >=>engine block
  >=>> (the side closest to the front-end). Heated bolt for about 10
  >=>minutes with
  >=>> MAPP gas.
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > RESULTS: Splintered wood, amused neighbors.
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > 2. Modifed breaker bar (6 foot galvanized pipe cheater bar,
  >=>powder coated
  >=>> blue, poly thread caps, etc.) and also an upgrade kit for the
  >=>piece of wood
  >=>> which consisted of a lead dead-blow hammer. The hammer's head
  >=>fit perfectly
  >=>> sideways against the counterweights and the side of the block.
  >=>The breaker
  >=>> bar affair was braced with jackstands where the socket met the bolt and
  >=>> where the breaker bar met the socket. The bolt was again
  >=>heated. I leaned
  >=>> about 90 pounds on the end of the 6 foot bar, generating about
  >=>500 ft-lbs.
  >=>> of torque.
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > RESULTS: Thankfully, nothing. I was unsure of the amount of
  >=>force required
  >=>> to crack the block, and chickened out at 500 ft-lbs. Should I
  >=>just go for
  >=>> this? With a friend or two, I could easily put a few ft.-tons
  >=>on the bolt.
  >=>> Its not my car, so I'm a little paranoid.
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > 3. Breaker bar on the bolt and bump the starter..
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > RESULTS: Nothing. Stopped the starter dead in it's tracks.
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > 4. Jack up the car and then lower its weight on to the bolt via the
  >=>> breaker bar. Heated the bolt.
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > RESULTS: Nothing. Engine began to lift unpleasantly.
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > 5. Pound on the breaker bar (again braced with the jackstands) using 
  >a
  >=>> sledgehammer. Heated the f****ng bolt.
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > RESULTS: Nothing, and this one really felt like it was working.
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > 6. Impact wrench. Heated the bolt. This was a normal sized gun that
  >=>> probably didn't have a hell of a lot of torque, but did break a cheapo
  >=>> non-impact socket.
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > RESULTS: Nothing, but at least that socket won't be busting anyones
  >=>> knuckles. I might go rent a bigger gun (and use a proper impact
  >=>socket) if I
  >=>> can find a place that'll rent one.
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > Anyways, there you go. I am totally open to any comments,
  >=>flames, or death
  >=>> threats regarding this problem. Again, when I say I heated the
  >=>bolt, I mean
  >=>> for about 10 minutes with MAPP gas. Perhaps it needs more?
  >=>(Oxy-Acetylene?)
  >=>> Thanks man!
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> >
  >=>> > --Dave
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