frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)

[roccit_53 at hotmail.com (C Boyko)]

Damn, once again, the guys get to have all the fun...
Cathy, too scared to drink milk now...


>From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
>To: "Anson Clement" <ansonivan@yahoo.com>, "Ron Pieper" 
><rapieper@yahoo.com>,<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
>Subject: RE: frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)
>Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:57:13 -0500
>
>remember if it is the glass type of milk bottle, they ae not pyrex, so 
>apply
>heat slowly...(dont want any chards yanno :)0
>
>
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>=>-----Original Message-----
>=>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
>=>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Anson Clement
>=>Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:20 AM
>=>To: Ron Pieper; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>=>Subject: Re: frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)
>=>
>=>
>=>crap!.... so much for screwing milk bottles..... er I mean.... hehe
>=>
>=>Anson
>=>
>=>Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com> wrote:
>=>Na...
>=>
>=>Heat expands stuff...the bolt gets bigger, BUT so does the hole.
>=>And, since the threaded hole is
>=>a bit bigger than the bolt, it WILL become looser.
>=>
>=>And the heat serves but burn dirt, rust etc. which helps too.
>=>
>=>Larry will confirm this, I'm sure.
>=>
>=>Ron
>=>
>=>
>=>--- Dan Bubb wrote:
>=>> So, far Anson has THE BEST reply to the frozen crankshaft bolt 
>question!
>=>> Graphic! But, clearly the most original!
>=>>
>=>> ----- Original Message -----
>=>> From: "Anson Clement"
>=>> To:
>=>> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:59 AM
>=>> Subject: Re: frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)
>=>>
>=>>
>=>> > Holy crap guy! Will you stop heating the bolt already? Heat causes
>=>> expansion yes? so in effect you are making a bad situation
>=>badder.... or is
>=>> that worser..... whatever.
>=>> >
>=>> > What you described is similar to sticking your willy in a
>=>milk jug (or for
>=>> those less blessed, a beer bottle) and watching footage of
>=>britney spears
>=>> make out with madona..... yea I guess that might not work for
>=>some.... but
>=>> anyways you get the idea..... willy swell no come out of bottle.
>=>> >
>=>> > Where was I? ......
>=>> >
>=>> > Anson
>=>> >
>=>> > Dave wrote:
>=>> > There are lots of great "stuck crankshaft sprocket bolt" solutions
>=>> available on this site especially the "crankshaft seal fun!"
>=>threads, and
>=>> believe me, I tried each and every one, but I cannot get the
>=>motherf.uh, I
>=>> mean, the gosh darn thing off!
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > Its a 1984 'rocco with a 1.8.
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > Here's what I've tried so far, each of them with and without liberal
>=>> applications of heat and blood.
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > 1. Factory stock breaker bar, oil pan off and crankshaft locked with 
>a
>=>> block of wood between crank counterweights and the side of the
>=>engine block
>=>> (the side closest to the front-end). Heated bolt for about 10
>=>minutes with
>=>> MAPP gas.
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > RESULTS: Splintered wood, amused neighbors.
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > 2. Modifed breaker bar (6 foot galvanized pipe cheater bar,
>=>powder coated
>=>> blue, poly thread caps, etc.) and also an upgrade kit for the
>=>piece of wood
>=>> which consisted of a lead dead-blow hammer. The hammer's head
>=>fit perfectly
>=>> sideways against the counterweights and the side of the block.
>=>The breaker
>=>> bar affair was braced with jackstands where the socket met the bolt and
>=>> where the breaker bar met the socket. The bolt was again
>=>heated. I leaned
>=>> about 90 pounds on the end of the 6 foot bar, generating about
>=>500 ft-lbs.
>=>> of torque.
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > RESULTS: Thankfully, nothing. I was unsure of the amount of
>=>force required
>=>> to crack the block, and chickened out at 500 ft-lbs. Should I
>=>just go for
>=>> this? With a friend or two, I could easily put a few ft.-tons
>=>on the bolt.
>=>> Its not my car, so I'm a little paranoid.
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > 3. Breaker bar on the bolt and bump the starter..
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > RESULTS: Nothing. Stopped the starter dead in it's tracks.
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > 4. Jack up the car and then lower its weight on to the bolt via the
>=>> breaker bar. Heated the bolt.
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > RESULTS: Nothing. Engine began to lift unpleasantly.
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > 5. Pound on the breaker bar (again braced with the jackstands) using 
>a
>=>> sledgehammer. Heated the f****ng bolt.
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > RESULTS: Nothing, and this one really felt like it was working.
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > 6. Impact wrench. Heated the bolt. This was a normal sized gun that
>=>> probably didn't have a hell of a lot of torque, but did break a cheapo
>=>> non-impact socket.
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > RESULTS: Nothing, but at least that socket won't be busting anyones
>=>> knuckles. I might go rent a bigger gun (and use a proper impact
>=>socket) if I
>=>> can find a place that'll rent one.
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > Anyways, there you go. I am totally open to any comments,
>=>flames, or death
>=>> threats regarding this problem. Again, when I say I heated the
>=>bolt, I mean
>=>> for about 10 minutes with MAPP gas. Perhaps it needs more?
>=>(Oxy-Acetylene?)
>=>> Thanks man!
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> >
>=>> > --Dave
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