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frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)



Ha!  You should have seen what my brother did to the Ranch Dressing right
before his divorce........
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C Boyko" <roccit_53@hotmail.com>
To: <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>; <ansonivan@yahoo.com>; <rapieper@yahoo.com>;
<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:47 AM
Subject: RE: frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)


> Damn, once again, the guys get to have all the fun...
> Cathy, too scared to drink milk now...
>
>
> >From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
> >To: "Anson Clement" <ansonivan@yahoo.com>, "Ron Pieper"
> ><rapieper@yahoo.com>,<scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> >Subject: RE: frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)
> >Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:57:13 -0500
> >
> >remember if it is the glass type of milk bottle, they ae not pyrex, so
> >apply
> >heat slowly...(dont want any chards yanno :)0
> >
> >
> >ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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> >
> >
> >=>-----Original Message-----
> >=>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> >=>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Anson Clement
> >=>Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:20 AM
> >=>To: Ron Pieper; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> >=>Subject: Re: frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)
> >=>
> >=>
> >=>crap!.... so much for screwing milk bottles..... er I mean.... hehe
> >=>
> >=>Anson
> >=>
> >=>Ron Pieper <rapieper@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >=>Na...
> >=>
> >=>Heat expands stuff...the bolt gets bigger, BUT so does the hole.
> >=>And, since the threaded hole is
> >=>a bit bigger than the bolt, it WILL become looser.
> >=>
> >=>And the heat serves but burn dirt, rust etc. which helps too.
> >=>
> >=>Larry will confirm this, I'm sure.
> >=>
> >=>Ron
> >=>
> >=>
> >=>--- Dan Bubb wrote:
> >=>> So, far Anson has THE BEST reply to the frozen crankshaft bolt
> >question!
> >=>> Graphic! But, clearly the most original!
> >=>>
> >=>> ----- Original Message -----
> >=>> From: "Anson Clement"
> >=>> To:
> >=>> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:59 AM
> >=>> Subject: Re: frozen crankshaft sprocket bolt (now pg-13)
> >=>>
> >=>>
> >=>> > Holy crap guy! Will you stop heating the bolt already? Heat causes
> >=>> expansion yes? so in effect you are making a bad situation
> >=>badder.... or is
> >=>> that worser..... whatever.
> >=>> >
> >=>> > What you described is similar to sticking your willy in a
> >=>milk jug (or for
> >=>> those less blessed, a beer bottle) and watching footage of
> >=>britney spears
> >=>> make out with madona..... yea I guess that might not work for
> >=>some.... but
> >=>> anyways you get the idea..... willy swell no come out of bottle.
> >=>> >
> >=>> > Where was I? ......
> >=>> >
> >=>> > Anson
> >=>> >
> >=>> > Dave wrote:
> >=>> > There are lots of great "stuck crankshaft sprocket bolt" solutions
> >=>> available on this site especially the "crankshaft seal fun!"
> >=>threads, and
> >=>> believe me, I tried each and every one, but I cannot get the
> >=>motherf.uh, I
> >=>> mean, the gosh darn thing off!
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > Its a 1984 'rocco with a 1.8.
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > Here's what I've tried so far, each of them with and without
liberal
> >=>> applications of heat and blood.
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > 1. Factory stock breaker bar, oil pan off and crankshaft locked
with
> >a
> >=>> block of wood between crank counterweights and the side of the
> >=>engine block
> >=>> (the side closest to the front-end). Heated bolt for about 10
> >=>minutes with
> >=>> MAPP gas.
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > RESULTS: Splintered wood, amused neighbors.
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > 2. Modifed breaker bar (6 foot galvanized pipe cheater bar,
> >=>powder coated
> >=>> blue, poly thread caps, etc.) and also an upgrade kit for the
> >=>piece of wood
> >=>> which consisted of a lead dead-blow hammer. The hammer's head
> >=>fit perfectly
> >=>> sideways against the counterweights and the side of the block.
> >=>The breaker
> >=>> bar affair was braced with jackstands where the socket met the bolt
and
> >=>> where the breaker bar met the socket. The bolt was again
> >=>heated. I leaned
> >=>> about 90 pounds on the end of the 6 foot bar, generating about
> >=>500 ft-lbs.
> >=>> of torque.
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > RESULTS: Thankfully, nothing. I was unsure of the amount of
> >=>force required
> >=>> to crack the block, and chickened out at 500 ft-lbs. Should I
> >=>just go for
> >=>> this? With a friend or two, I could easily put a few ft.-tons
> >=>on the bolt.
> >=>> Its not my car, so I'm a little paranoid.
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > 3. Breaker bar on the bolt and bump the starter..
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > RESULTS: Nothing. Stopped the starter dead in it's tracks.
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > 4. Jack up the car and then lower its weight on to the bolt via the
> >=>> breaker bar. Heated the bolt.
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > RESULTS: Nothing. Engine began to lift unpleasantly.
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > 5. Pound on the breaker bar (again braced with the jackstands)
using
> >a
> >=>> sledgehammer. Heated the f****ng bolt.
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > RESULTS: Nothing, and this one really felt like it was working.
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > 6. Impact wrench. Heated the bolt. This was a normal sized gun that
> >=>> probably didn't have a hell of a lot of torque, but did break a
cheapo
> >=>> non-impact socket.
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > RESULTS: Nothing, but at least that socket won't be busting anyones
> >=>> knuckles. I might go rent a bigger gun (and use a proper impact
> >=>socket) if I
> >=>> can find a place that'll rent one.
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > Anyways, there you go. I am totally open to any comments,
> >=>flames, or death
> >=>> threats regarding this problem. Again, when I say I heated the
> >=>bolt, I mean
> >=>> for about 10 minutes with MAPP gas. Perhaps it needs more?
> >=>(Oxy-Acetylene?)
> >=>> Thanks man!
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> >
> >=>> > --Dave
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