[audio] subs & boxes

[marc_scirocco at sympatico.ca (marc_scirocco Québec)]

I install FOUR 6*9 on my deck lid. And I am happy with the result.

This is just a piece of cardboard with some carpet on it.
As far as I am concerned, anybody can do as they please on their own car.

See my comments below.

Cheers.

Marc
'83 Scirocco
'97 A4 Quattro

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> [mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]De la part de T. Reed
> Envoy? : vendredi 28 novembre 2003 03:03
> ? : Foxx (in a box)
> Cc : Scirocco List
> Objet : Re: [audio] subs & boxes
>
>
> Don't make 'yet another' hatch lid with speakers in it. Many a nice
> decklid has been ruined by some moron with a saw installing 6x9s. Even if
> you're planning on building a new lid first, consider the problems with
> such a setup:

Pretty strong opinion. Do you own the thruth?

>
> - your speakers will be very visible to the world, particularly thieves.

Mine is always garaged.

> - the extra thick lid will weight a lot more and the rubber straps that
>   hold the lid will break so you will have to replace them with chains or
>   cables that rattle and make noise.

I have FOUR 6*9 on my deck lid, and none of the straps ever broke.

> - you will have to run wiring to the lid, which means you can't take it
>   out. Or, you can only take it out if you seperate disconnects. This is a
>   pain no matter what.. and makes it much harder to remove the lid to put
>   large cargo in the trunk.

I installed a quick disconnect plug using brand new 14 AWG. I can remove the
lid as easily as anybody can.

> - if you take the lid out to transfer large cargo or whatever then you
>   will have no speakers there until you put it back in.

Yes, but no big deal for me.

> - if you just drop them in the lid without a box they will sound like
>   crap, but if you build a box on the underside of the lid it will add
>   weight to the lid and make your trunk smaller

They sound good to me.

> - the car looks extraordinarily goofy and non-stock with the two side
>   speakers, plus two speakers in the rear lid.

This is your opinion. Who cares...

> - if your trunk is open when its raining then the speaker cones will get
>   wet and the grilles may rust.

Are you serious?

> - etc etc etc
>
> Installing speakers in the decklid is a choice along the same lines as
> lowering a car by cutting springs, using armor-all on the dash, or
> installing nitrous instead of 'legitimately' building a quicker engine. It
> is a bad idea, made in bad taste looking only at the short term and will
> in quickly lead to problems or damage that reduces the value of the car.

Calm down will you? See first comment.

>
> Do yourself and any future owners of your car a favor and build a box, run
> new wiring and do a clean install. I would suggest for subs as small as
> yours that you build a triangular box that takes the diagonal formed by
> the rear seatback and turns it in the a vertical, with the subs firing to
> the rear. Speakers that small don't need very many cubic feet and this
> would be a very compact arrangement that would take away almost no trunk
> space, be easily removable, out of sight and still sound good.
>
> I have something similar in my car, but it is more of an isosceles
> triangle with a flat peak than a right triangle. I had to sacrifice
> some cargo space to get the cubic feet necessary for my larger subs.
>
> My 2 cents, flame away.
>
> -Toby
>
>
> On Thu, 27 Nov 2003, Foxx (in a box) wrote:
>
> >    i managed to pick up a pair of 5.5" bose subs from a porsche box that
> > were going to be thrown away (the box was bad and it was covered under
> > warranty = good by subs). at any rate, i'm planning on building a
> > special hatch lid for them and thought they should probably be included
> > in a box. is there any special formula for box making? they've got their
> > own little cool ports that i can use. info would be appreciated. thanx.
> >
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