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small boost set-up with CIS-E??
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Dan - your experience with the ATP manifold was bad? What happened?
I was actually going to generate an email to the list and Vortex FI forum tomorrow night re: what turbo components should I buy new if I had the "medium" luxury (i.e., where should I focus my budget).
I would have thought a new manifold would be in the top 3 of that list...
Details, man! Thx, JT
Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com> wrote:Unless there has been some major update to your car it should have CIS-lambda, not CIS-E.From my (perhaps limited) knowledge of turboing a CIS motor this is good.I don't know any prescription for modifying CIS-E for boost, but with CIS-lambda the setup seems to be warm up regulator from Volvo 240T or Audi 5000T. This should let you run 5 psi from what I've heard. For more boost, swap the fuel distributor for one from the Volvo. You can use the Audi FD, but need to block off one port!Check VWVortex Forced Induction forum. Search for CIS in that forum. You should come up with most of the info needed.As a side note, the JH is a pretty good turbo candidate. It may not have the oil squirters or turbo pistons of the G60, but the rest is pretty much the same. The Hardcore VW guys seem to think it can make 200 HP all day. So, if you can get the fuelling and ignition setup right, the basic mechanical parts are good to go.DanPS. Welding up your toilet bowl manifold(if you can keep the end result from cracking!) will flow just about as well as the POS cast manifold from ATP. Just my .02 after buying one which I now intend not to use. ----- Original Message ----- From: jesse Neufeld To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:33 PMSubject: small boost set-up with CIS-E??
hey me and a friend were thinking of doing a small cheap turbo set up on his prelude and if it works out good maybe do one on my car in the near future.. so my question.. how well will the stock CIS-E fuel system on my 84 scirocco fare with about 5psi boost max? will it be sufficiant for a turbo set up?
also i have a a1 dual outlet manifold and the stock 4-1 "toilet bowl" off my car.. what one would be better to weld up as a turbo mani.??
thanks
-84 Kamei body Scirocco
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<P>Dan - your experience with the ATP manifold was bad? What happened?
<P>I was actually going to generate an email to the list and Vortex FI forum tomorrow night re: what turbo components should I buy new if I had the "medium" luxury (i.e., where should I focus my budget).
<P>I would have thought a new manifold would be in the top 3 of that list...
<P>Details, man! Thx, JT
<P> <B><I>Dan Bubb <jdbubb@ix.netcom.com></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Unless there has been some major update to your car it should have CIS-lambda, not CIS-E.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>From my (perhaps limited) knowledge of turboing a CIS motor this is good.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I don't know any prescription for modifying CIS-E for boost, but with CIS-lambda the setup seems to be warm up regulator from Volvo 240T or Audi 5000T. This should let you run 5 psi from what I've heard. For more boost, swap the fuel distributor for one from the Volvo. You can use the Audi FD, but need to block off one port!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Check VWVortex Forced Induction forum. Search for CIS in that forum. You should come up with most of the info needed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>As a side note, the JH is a pretty good turbo candidate. It may not have the oil squirters or turbo pistons of the G60, but the rest is pretty much the same. The Hardcore VW guys seem to think it can make 200 HP all day. So, if you can get the fuelling and ignition setup right, the basic mechanical parts are good to go.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>PS. Welding up your toilet bowl manifold(if you can keep the end result from cracking!) will flow just about as well as the POS cast manifold from ATP. Just my .02 after buying one which I now intend not to use.</FONT></DIV>
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<P>hey me and a friend were thinking of doing a small cheap turbo set up on his prelude and if it works out good maybe do one on my car in the near future.. so my question.. how well will the stock CIS-E fuel system on my 84 scirocco fare with about 5psi boost max? will it be sufficiant for a turbo set up?</P>
<P>also i have a a1 dual outlet manifold and the stock 4-1 "toilet bowl" off my car.. what one would be better to weld up as a turbo mani.??<BR>thanks<BR><BR></P>
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