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flex-a-lite wiring help
yeah so uhhhh.....that didnt work. The wiring is correct according to
this diagram <http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/pics/fan7.jpg> All ground
wires connect and attach to the battery, and I now have a new relay.
The fan has been tested, and works. Any ideas what to next?
-chris
On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 05:12 AM, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:
> change it and see if that solves the problem, and you are sure you
> have the
> wires running the way the diagram shows ?
>
> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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>
> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>From: Chris Venturini [mailto:cventuri@digipen.edu]
> =>Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:57 PM
> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
> =>Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> =>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
> =>
> =>
> =>Ok, I did that. Still no go. So Im certain it has to be the OEM
> relay.
> =>I'll try that out once I get it. If that doesn't do it.....
> =>
> =>
> =>On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 10:00 AM, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:
> =>
> =>> yes the original brown wire coming from the OEM relay must be
> =>> grounded, I
> =>> grounded the red wires of the dual fan together with the browm
> wire of
> =>> the
> =>> oem setup back to the battery.
> =>>
> =>>
> =>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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> =>>
> =>>
> =>> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>> =>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> =>> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Chris
> Venturini
> =>> =>Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:04 PM
> =>> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
> =>> =>Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> =>> =>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
> =>> =>
> =>> =>
> =>> =>*sigh*
> =>> =>
> =>> =>ok, Round 3
> =>> =>
> =>> =>Today's the day...or maybe tomarrow.
> =>> =>
> =>> =>So I touched the wires to the battery and the fans work great!
> But
> =>> when
> =>> =>I hook it all back up I still get nothing. So now its down to 3
> =>> =>things...i think. 1.) The OEM relay. Where can i find this, and
> how
> =>> do
> =>> =>I test it/fix it? 2.) The original brown fan wire. Its just
> hanging
> =>> =>there. Is that right? 3.)I guess I could have a bad ground??
> =>> =>
> =>> =>Keep in mind Im not good at this stuff, yet. Im just an
> animator, not
> =>> =>an electrician/mechanic. So talk to me like Im 12 or something.
> =>> =>
> =>> =>-chris
> =>> =>
> =>> =>On Friday, August 15, 2003, at 06:08 AM, ATS - Patrick Bureau
> wrote:
> =>> =>
> =>> =>> if you had the twi black wire (shown as brown on the diagram)
> to
> =>> =>> seperate
> =>> =>> relays then you made the mistake of not reading the diagram
> =>> properly.
> =>> =>> both wires must be be together, and uyou run 2 leads from each
> port
> =>> =>> #87 on
> =>> =>> each relays, and attch them together then together with the
> black
> =>> wire.
> =>> =>> not seperation at all. the diagram is clear and consice, make
> sure
> =>> your
> =>> =>> wires at properly wires to the right connection, if in doubt
> there
> =>> =>> could be
> =>> =>> a chance you have a bad fan, touch the battery poles with your
> fan
> =>> =>> wires...
> =>> =>> you will see if it "turbines" or not (youll know what I mean by
> =>> =>> turbine when
> =>> =>> you test it)
> =>> =>>
> =>> =>> Once you have the wirring correctly done, and you get the same
> =>> result,
> =>> =>> I
> =>> =>> would check the OEM relay where the power is coming from.
> =>> =>>
> =>> =>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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> =>> =>>
> =>> =>> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>> =>> =>From: Chris Venturini [mailto:cventuri@digipen.edu]
> =>> =>> =>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:14 PM
> =>> =>> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
> =>> =>> =>Cc: Ryan H; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> =>> =>> =>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>ok, round 2.
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>I havent gotten much chance to work on this since i get home
> from
> =>> =>> work
> =>> =>> =>at dusk, and I have no garage/lights. But I did manage to
> get it
> =>> =>> "test"
> =>> =>> =>wired. But its still not workin. I got the 2 relays and they
> are
> =>> all
> =>> =>> =>wired up like it shows in the diagram here
> =>> =>> =><http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/pics/fan7.jpg> nothin. This of
> =>> course
> =>> =>> =>after I let it warm up and get to high temp. Then I started
> =>> messin
> =>> =>> =>around just trying to get a spark or some sign of current,
> and i
> =>> =>> =>attached the original brown vw fan wire to the high speed
> relay
> =>> prong
> =>> =>> =>36 (where the red/white wire was) and one fan came
> on....kinda.
> =>> it
> =>> =>> was
> =>> =>> =>very weak. Anyways, thats the best I could do tonight....and
> =>> here i
> =>> =>> am
> =>> =>> =>once again confused. Looking at the diagram again, i know for
> =>> sure i
> =>> =>> =>had it all wired right, except for the two black flex-a-lite
> =>> wires. I
> =>> =>> =>had them each go to seperate relays. Im assuming thats wrong?
> =>> What
> =>> =>> =>other reason might there be for it not working, other than my
> =>> =>> stupidity?
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 05:08 AM, ATS - Patrick Bureau
> =>> wrote:
> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>> well if you are not using relays, the red wires from the
> fan
> =>> are
> =>> =>> to be
> =>> =>> =>> connected to a ground source, the brown wires are to be
> =>> connected
> =>> =>> to
> =>> =>> =>> the low
> =>> =>> =>> speed wire, (red/black) and the red/white well it does
> nothing
> =>> =>> because
> =>> =>> =>> your
> =>> =>> =>> not using relays, plug it, I had mine setup like this for 2
> =>> years
> =>> =>> =>> without a
> =>> =>> =>> problem, but if your radiator (or collant system) is not
> super
> =>> =>> clean,
> =>> =>> =>> squeaky clean, you will get maybe issues when you need high
> =>> speed,
> =>> =>> one
> =>> =>> =>> of
> =>> =>> =>> the worries though never happened to me because my coolant
> =>> system
> =>> =>> was
> =>> =>> =>> revamped anyways.
> =>> =>> =>>
> =>> =>> =>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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> =>> =>> =>>
> =>> =>> =>>
> =>> =>> =>> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>> =>> =>> =>From: Chris Venturini [mailto:cventuri@digipen.edu]
> =>> =>> =>> =>Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:27 AM
> =>> =>> =>> =>To: Ryan H
> =>> =>> =>> =>Cc: ATS - Patrick Bureau; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> =>> =>> =>> =>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
> =>> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>> =>Ok, yeah Im confused. I put the two red fan wires
> together
> =>> with
> =>> =>> the
> =>> =>> =>> =>brown. And the two black fan wires with the red/white?
> and
> =>> the
> =>> =>> =>> =>red/black does what? its just hangin there right now. I
> =>> guess i
> =>> =>> just
> =>> =>> =>> =>want the two fans to come on at the same time.
> =>> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>> =>On Saturday, August 9, 2003, at 09:24 PM, Ryan H wrote:
> =>> =>> =>> =>
> =>> =>> =>> =>> Awesome job on hiding the relays Patrick, I shoulda
> =>> thought of
> =>> =>> =>> that!
> =>> =>> =>> =>> Do you mind if I put that pic up on my tech note?
> Anyway,
> =>> for
> =>> =>> the
> =>> =>> =>> =>> tech note, you need to type the full address or else it
> =>> won't
> =>> =>> let
> =>> =>> =>> you
> =>> =>> =>> =>> in: http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/scirocco.htm
> =>> =>> =>> =>> Chris, whichever way you decide to do the wiring, ask
> first
> =>> =>> and I'm
> =>> =>> =>> =>> sure you'll get some good ideas and detailed how-tos.
> =>> Later!
> =>> =>> =>> =>>
> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> Date: 2003/08/09 Sat PM 09:45:42 EDT
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> To: "Chris Venturini" <cventuri@digipen.edu>,
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> Subject: RE: flex-a-lite wiring help
> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> here is how I did mine, taking the idea from someone
> =>> else.. (I
> =>> =>> =>> take no
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> credit on this mod)
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> actually the mod came from another scirocco owner =>
> R y
> =>> a n
> =>> =>> =>> H o
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> c k e n
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> b u r y , and this is tech note web site
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> <http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/>
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> address, anyay here is the the diagram is the one I
> used,
> =>> and
> =>> =>> it
> =>> =>> =>> works
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> perfect
> =>> =>> <http://longcoeur.com/scirocco/various/radfan/fan7.jpg>,
> =>> =>> =>> this
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> is
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> what it looks like. the 2 relays hold unto the fan
> with
> =>> =>> (because
> =>> =>> =>> they
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> came
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> with a single block unit with 2 relays on them) a
> single
> =>> tie
> =>> =>> wrap
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> passing
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> throught the casing of the fan , so the relay are
> hidden
> =>> =>> inside
> =>> =>> =>> the
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> fan as
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> shown by this image
> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
> =>> <http://longcoeur.com/scirocco/various/radfan/P5100017.JPG>.
> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> ----------------------------------------------
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> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>-----Original Message-----
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of
> =>> Chris
> =>> =>> =>> Venturini
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:58 PM
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>Subject: flex-a-lite wiring help
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>I need help wiring a flex-a-lite fan. Everywhere I
> read
> =>> =>> about it
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> doesnt
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>tell you how to do it completely. Or maybe Im just
> too
> =>> =>> stupid to
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>understand it. Ive got(on the fans) 2 black, and 2
> red.
> =>> Then
> =>> =>> =>> the car
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>has a brown, a red/white, and a red/black. Can
> anyone
> =>> walk
> =>> =>> me
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> through
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>this?
> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>
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