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flex-a-lite wiring help
have you tested
a) radiator switch
b) continuity on all related wires (could be a broken wire in original loom
?)
ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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=>-----Original Message-----
=>From: Chris Venturini [mailto:cventuri@digipen.edu]
=>Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:18 PM
=>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
=>Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
=>
=>
=>yeah so uhhhh.....that didnt work. The wiring is correct according to
=>this diagram <http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/pics/fan7.jpg> All ground
=>wires connect and attach to the battery, and I now have a new relay.
=>The fan has been tested, and works. Any ideas what to next?
=>
=>-chris
=>
=>
=>On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 05:12 AM, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:
=>
=>> change it and see if that solves the problem, and you are sure you
=>> have the
=>> wires running the way the diagram shows ?
=>>
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=>>
=>> =>-----Original Message-----
=>> =>From: Chris Venturini [mailto:cventuri@digipen.edu]
=>> =>Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:57 PM
=>> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
=>> =>Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>> =>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
=>> =>
=>> =>
=>> =>Ok, I did that. Still no go. So Im certain it has to be the OEM
=>> relay.
=>> =>I'll try that out once I get it. If that doesn't do it.....
=>> =>
=>> =>
=>> =>On Tuesday, August 19, 2003, at 10:00 AM, ATS - Patrick Bureau wrote:
=>> =>
=>> =>> yes the original brown wire coming from the OEM relay must be
=>> =>> grounded, I
=>> =>> grounded the red wires of the dual fan together with the browm
=>> wire of
=>> =>> the
=>> =>> oem setup back to the battery.
=>> =>>
=>> =>>
=>> =>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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=>> =>>
=>> =>> =>-----Original Message-----
=>> =>> =>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
=>> =>> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Chris
=>> Venturini
=>> =>> =>Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 4:04 PM
=>> =>> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
=>> =>> =>Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>> =>> =>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>*sigh*
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>ok, Round 3
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>Today's the day...or maybe tomarrow.
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>So I touched the wires to the battery and the fans work great!
=>> But
=>> =>> when
=>> =>> =>I hook it all back up I still get nothing. So now its down to 3
=>> =>> =>things...i think. 1.) The OEM relay. Where can i find this, and
=>> how
=>> =>> do
=>> =>> =>I test it/fix it? 2.) The original brown fan wire. Its just
=>> hanging
=>> =>> =>there. Is that right? 3.)I guess I could have a bad ground??
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>Keep in mind Im not good at this stuff, yet. Im just an
=>> animator, not
=>> =>> =>an electrician/mechanic. So talk to me like Im 12 or something.
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>-chris
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>On Friday, August 15, 2003, at 06:08 AM, ATS - Patrick Bureau
=>> wrote:
=>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> if you had the twi black wire (shown as brown on the diagram)
=>> to
=>> =>> =>> seperate
=>> =>> =>> relays then you made the mistake of not reading the diagram
=>> =>> properly.
=>> =>> =>> both wires must be be together, and uyou run 2 leads from each
=>> port
=>> =>> =>> #87 on
=>> =>> =>> each relays, and attch them together then together with the
=>> black
=>> =>> wire.
=>> =>> =>> not seperation at all. the diagram is clear and consice, make
=>> sure
=>> =>> your
=>> =>> =>> wires at properly wires to the right connection, if in doubt
=>> there
=>> =>> =>> could be
=>> =>> =>> a chance you have a bad fan, touch the battery poles with your
=>> fan
=>> =>> =>> wires...
=>> =>> =>> you will see if it "turbines" or not (youll know what I mean by
=>> =>> =>> turbine when
=>> =>> =>> you test it)
=>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>> Once you have the wirring correctly done, and you get the same
=>> =>> result,
=>> =>> =>> I
=>> =>> =>> would check the OEM relay where the power is coming from.
=>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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=>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>> =>-----Original Message-----
=>> =>> =>> =>From: Chris Venturini [mailto:cventuri@digipen.edu]
=>> =>> =>> =>Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:14 PM
=>> =>> =>> =>To: ATS - Patrick Bureau
=>> =>> =>> =>Cc: Ryan H; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>> =>> =>> =>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
=>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>ok, round 2.
=>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>I havent gotten much chance to work on this since i get home
=>> from
=>> =>> =>> work
=>> =>> =>> =>at dusk, and I have no garage/lights. But I did manage to
=>> get it
=>> =>> =>> "test"
=>> =>> =>> =>wired. But its still not workin. I got the 2 relays and they
=>> are
=>> =>> all
=>> =>> =>> =>wired up like it shows in the diagram here
=>> =>> =>> =><http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/pics/fan7.jpg> nothin. This of
=>> =>> course
=>> =>> =>> =>after I let it warm up and get to high temp. Then I started
=>> =>> messin
=>> =>> =>> =>around just trying to get a spark or some sign of current,
=>> and i
=>> =>> =>> =>attached the original brown vw fan wire to the high speed
=>> relay
=>> =>> prong
=>> =>> =>> =>36 (where the red/white wire was) and one fan came
=>> on....kinda.
=>> =>> it
=>> =>> =>> was
=>> =>> =>> =>very weak. Anyways, thats the best I could do tonight....and
=>> =>> here i
=>> =>> =>> am
=>> =>> =>> =>once again confused. Looking at the diagram again, i know for
=>> =>> sure i
=>> =>> =>> =>had it all wired right, except for the two black flex-a-lite
=>> =>> wires. I
=>> =>> =>> =>had them each go to seperate relays. Im assuming thats wrong?
=>> =>> What
=>> =>> =>> =>other reason might there be for it not working, other than my
=>> =>> =>> stupidity?
=>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 05:08 AM, ATS - Patrick Bureau
=>> =>> wrote:
=>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>> well if you are not using relays, the red wires from the
=>> fan
=>> =>> are
=>> =>> =>> to be
=>> =>> =>> =>> connected to a ground source, the brown wires are to be
=>> =>> connected
=>> =>> =>> to
=>> =>> =>> =>> the low
=>> =>> =>> =>> speed wire, (red/black) and the red/white well it does
=>> nothing
=>> =>> =>> because
=>> =>> =>> =>> your
=>> =>> =>> =>> not using relays, plug it, I had mine setup like this for 2
=>> =>> years
=>> =>> =>> =>> without a
=>> =>> =>> =>> problem, but if your radiator (or collant system) is not
=>> super
=>> =>> =>> clean,
=>> =>> =>> =>> squeaky clean, you will get maybe issues when you need high
=>> =>> speed,
=>> =>> =>> one
=>> =>> =>> =>> of
=>> =>> =>> =>> the worries though never happened to me because my coolant
=>> =>> system
=>> =>> =>> was
=>> =>> =>> =>> revamped anyways.
=>> =>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>> =>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
=>> =>> =>> =>> ----------------------------------------------
=>> =>> =>> =>> MSN:ATSGTX@hotmail.com |YAHOO:ATSGTX@yahoo.com
=>> =>> =>> =>> ICQ:32918816 |AIM:Texasscirocco
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=>> =>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>-----Original Message-----
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>From: Chris Venturini [mailto:cventuri@digipen.edu]
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 12:27 AM
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>To: Ryan H
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>Cc: ATS - Patrick Bureau; scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>Subject: Re: flex-a-lite wiring help
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>Ok, yeah Im confused. I put the two red fan wires
=>> together
=>> =>> with
=>> =>> =>> the
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>brown. And the two black fan wires with the red/white?
=>> and
=>> =>> the
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>red/black does what? its just hangin there right now. I
=>> =>> guess i
=>> =>> =>> just
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>want the two fans to come on at the same time.
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>On Saturday, August 9, 2003, at 09:24 PM, Ryan H wrote:
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>> Awesome job on hiding the relays Patrick, I shoulda
=>> =>> thought of
=>> =>> =>> =>> that!
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>> Do you mind if I put that pic up on my tech note?
=>> Anyway,
=>> =>> for
=>> =>> =>> the
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>> tech note, you need to type the full address or else it
=>> =>> won't
=>> =>> =>> let
=>> =>> =>> =>> you
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>> in: http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/scirocco.htm
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>> Chris, whichever way you decide to do the wiring, ask
=>> first
=>> =>> =>> and I'm
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>> sure you'll get some good ideas and detailed how-tos.
=>> =>> Later!
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <txrocco@sbcglobal.net>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> Date: 2003/08/09 Sat PM 09:45:42 EDT
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> To: "Chris Venturini" <cventuri@digipen.edu>,
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> <Scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> Subject: RE: flex-a-lite wiring help
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> here is how I did mine, taking the idea from someone
=>> =>> else.. (I
=>> =>> =>> =>> take no
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> credit on this mod)
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> actually the mod came from another scirocco owner =>
=>> R y
=>> =>> a n
=>> =>> =>> =>> H o
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> c k e n
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> b u r y , and this is tech note web site
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> <http://home.epix.net/~rhock99/>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> address, anyay here is the the diagram is the one I
=>> used,
=>> =>> and
=>> =>> =>> it
=>> =>> =>> =>> works
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> perfect
=>> =>> =>> <http://longcoeur.com/scirocco/various/radfan/fan7.jpg>,
=>> =>> =>> =>> this
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> is
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> what it looks like. the 2 relays hold unto the fan
=>> with
=>> =>> =>> (because
=>> =>> =>> =>> they
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> came
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> with a single block unit with 2 relays on them) a
=>> single
=>> =>> tie
=>> =>> =>> wrap
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> passing
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> throught the casing of the fan , so the relay are
=>> hidden
=>> =>> =>> inside
=>> =>> =>> =>> the
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> fan as
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> shown by this image
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
=>> =>> <http://longcoeur.com/scirocco/various/radfan/P5100017.JPG>.
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> ATS - Patrick Bureau - txrocco@sbcglobal.net
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=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>-----Original Message-----
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>From: scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>[mailto:scirocco-l-bounces@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of
=>> =>> Chris
=>> =>> =>> =>> Venturini
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:58 PM
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>To: Scirocco-l@scirocco.org
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>Subject: flex-a-lite wiring help
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>I need help wiring a flex-a-lite fan. Everywhere I
=>> read
=>> =>> =>> about it
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> doesnt
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>tell you how to do it completely. Or maybe Im just
=>> too
=>> =>> =>> stupid to
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>understand it. Ive got(on the fans) 2 black, and 2
=>> red.
=>> =>> Then
=>> =>> =>> =>> the car
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>has a brown, a red/white, and a red/black. Can
=>> anyone
=>> =>> walk
=>> =>> =>> me
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> through
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>this?
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>
=>> =>> =>> =>> =>>> =>
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