OT: SUV bashing was --->Re: Carfax Anyone???

[lacelle@frontiernet.net (Erik La Celle)]

Ahh, but there is blame on the vehicle.  You are are way more likely to
crash in a SUV then a car in any given situation.  I think it's ironic
that people buy the things because they're safer in a crash when they're
more likely to crash.  I guess it's a good thing thing they're "safer,"
isn't it?
Erik L
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey Lowe <scirocco16v_1986@yahoo.com>
To: Night Shadow <soltwede@privateI.com>; scirocco-L
<scirocco-L@scirocco.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: OT: SUV bashing was --->Re: Carfax Anyone???


> All right I'm sure this thread is getting old for
> people, so this is my last word on the issue. I just
> believe the blame should not be placed on the vehicle
> type but rather on the drivers. And no matter what
> your driving there are always drivers in bigger
> vehicles out there that can do you in.
>
> --- Night Shadow <soltwede@privateI.com> wrote:
> > Hit a nerve did I?
>
> Of course you did.
>
> > If you are going to lower yourself to name calling,
> > and get all huffy,
>
> I lowered myself because you said "never go off the
> road", as if you know the driving conditions I face
> here in Texas. I'm a land owner, I own two large
> tracts of land in Texas that require me to go off road
> frequently, sometimes the 4x4 option doesn't even help
> me. You can't assume that all SUV drivers are equal in
> regards to how they use their vehicle.
>
> > You have the stereo-typical attitude of an SUV
> > driver that is the REAL reason I hate SUVs
> > (the drivers and their attitude).  "Waa waa, I wanna
> > be safe, so I will buy the biggest land barge on the
>
> > planet, fuck the rest of you, if you want to be safe
>
> > too, drive something bigger."
>
> So, does my "stereo-typical attitude" translate to a
> person that owns and drives a Scirocco, wife's Escort,
> brother's Triumph Spitfire, my other two project VW's
> etc.? And I didn't buy the biggest thing there was,
> the Explorer is one of the smaller SUV's out there.
> And I didn't say buy something bigger, I said buy
> something that can handle the impact, maybe a Volvo or
> something.
>
> > What a retarded attitude.  If everone would get this
> > idea out of their head that bigger is safer, the
> > entire US roadways would be safer.
>
> I really didn't want a big vehicle, I just wanted one
> that would handle the criteria of use I needed.
>
> > Do you see my point?  (Small cars have less mass,
> > therefore less energy at any speed...small car hits
> > a small car, not as bad of an energy release)
>
> Well, lets see, I lived in Japan for 9 years, I was
> surrounded by tiny ass death trap cars called
> Keijidosha's, they were cars that had very low HP
> engines, light as a feather, high KPG, and routinely
> you would see these little cars smashed all to hell
> not by big SUV's, cement trucks, semi's or buses, but
> by other little death trap cars. And most of the time
> the accident would result in a fatality or two.
> Cars like this:
>
http://www.toyota.co.jp/Showroom/All_toyota_lineup/Duet/exterior/index.h
tml#
>
> > ...too much "following the herd" going on in this
> > country.
>
> Following the herd would be the farthest thing in my
> mind, I hate conformity, I hate to have the same thing
> as my next door neighbor, but what choices do I have?
> If you can suggest an AWD vehicle that is chock full
> of safety features, high MPG, $26K or less, seats five
> comfortably with room for groceries, will not high
> center when going off road, can tow a 16ft flatbed
> trailer with another car or truck on the trailer, then
> I'm all ears to buying such a vehicle.
>
> Later...
>
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