setting up a FWD for oversteer...

[rocco2nr@hotmail.com (Joe Doty)]

Maybe it's just my driving style/lack of skill/etc, but...

Isn't it easy to lose control with a FWD setup like that?  The classic 
scenario (with me, at least) is coming into a corner too hot, and starting 
to drift.  The only way to regain control is to power-on, but you're already 
going too fast!  Brakes = bad idea too, so basically it's lose-lose.  I hate 
that.

I just want to be able to drive fast with some oversteer, and be able to 
control it in a sane manner at the same time!  I tried no front bar with my 
setup (scirocco 16v, neuspeed sports, bilstein sports) and that equated to a 
bent wheel, tweaked axle, two spinouts, etc...Anyway, you get what I'm 
after.

Pushing to the static limit of handling is cool, but getting the back end 
out under control is way cooler.  In a completely controlled environment, of 
course.  ;)

Joe


>I can't imagine a practical means to induce throttle on oversteer in a FWD
>car. Any time you hit the gas, you are unloading the front tires and
>shifting weight to the back. This will increase understeer/decrease
>oversteer.
>
>Meanwhile, the throttle off oversteer is your friend. Get used to it and 
>use
>it to your advantage. Eliminating the tendency is absolutely counter
>productive to performance driving. If you do it, you'll end up with a
>Scirocco that handles like a Lincoln Town Car, Toyota Corolla, or other
>inspiring luxobarge/grocery getter.
>
>To answer your question, though, you could dial some toe-in on the rear
>tires. Negative camber back there might also work. (burp) Hmm... how about 
>a
>huge front bar and nothing in the back? Very soft rear springs could do the
>trick as well. (dry heave) Or, you could put some big tires in the back and
>small ones in the front. That way you can pick up show points and reduce
>your oversteer at the same time. :^)


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