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web site ideas? support? Mirror?
Ok, all this talk about tech notes has finally gotten me off my ass to
finish the one I started about my home brewed weighted, shortened, heim
jointed shifter.
Who wants it?
Rick Alexander
http://www.brubakerbox.com
http://clubs.hemmings.com/hams/
http://clubs.hemmings.com/vwsrus/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Allyn" <amalventano1@comcast.net>
To: "Jeff Toomasson" <jtoomasson@yahoo.com>; "ATS - Patrick Bureau"
<pbureau@attbi.com>; "Brett Van Sprewenburg" <brett@netacc.net>
Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: web site ideas? support? Mirror?
> the dsm guys have done the best i've seen so far as far as collaborating
info:
> http://www.vfaq.com/index-main.html
> something like this for vw's would rock, but who knows if it would ever
happen.
> Al
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Toomasson" <jtoomasson@yahoo.com>
> To: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@attbi.com>; "Brett Van Sprewenburg"
<brett@netacc.net>
> Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 8:00 PM
> Subject: Re: web site ideas? support? Mirror?
>
>
> > (Collective Sigh....)
> >
> > Gentlemen - I can see many others' points about unifying (or trying to
> > anyway) a location where anyone can find anything tech-related. I, for
one,
> > have also hunted high and low looking for valuable bits of tech (you
should
> > see my "favorites" folder on IE - I have a "scirocco stuff" folder that
goes
> > on for days)
> >
> > I can somewhat sympathize with Patrick though - though not
> > sharing/mirroring/whatever-webspeak-I-don't-know ;) may seem kinda
contrary
> > to what we're about, he's invested a lot of time and effort in his site
and
> > it's a great resource. He should be proud of it and get the credit he
> > deservers. (boy, this is a sticky one I don't like touching (eww, that
> > sounded gross...). As should you, Brett (not the touching part....
)
> >
> > (and now the proposed solution)
> > can't the .org site list Patrick's home page and a list of his tech
notes?
> > Patrick usually announces when he posts a new note anyway. You could
update
> > the .org according to those posts...Or even more simply (though less
> > effective) "if you don't find it here, check [insert link here]"...wait,
> > that sucks...
> >
> > Maybe there should be more policing (?) of the links in the .org (sorry
> > Brett - hell, I'll volunteer) if there's concern over dead links...
> >
> > I don't know what other fair way there is.....
> >
> > Whatever comes out of this, I just want to give kudos/props to you
both -
> > never be reluctant to ask the list for assistance. I sure I speak for a
lot
> > of us when I say that we you both quite a bit!
> >
> > Have a good weekend everyone!
> >
> > Jeff
> > _______
> >
> > '86.5 Scirocco 16v 2.0 (roc #5)
> > '84 Rabbit Convertible (cabby #2)
> > '00 4-Runner sport pkg.
> > AIM ID: Sixteen Viagras
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ATS - Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@attbi.com>
> > To: "Brett Van Sprewenburg" <brett@netacc.net>
> > Cc: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 4:24 PM
> > Subject: web site ideas? support? Mirror?
> >
> >
> > > I understand, I really do, what you are attempting to do is "get help
for
> > > the .org site", and rest assured I am honored by the request of me,
> > working
> > > it, but the fact is , I have enough work with my web site and TST web
site
> > > plus another one I host for wife and lastly one private horse farm on
my
> > > server.
> > >
> > > I really don't have the extra time to manage yet another "section" of
web
> > > site, I would love to help but I cannot take honestly this job.
> > >
> > > My Tech notes never change Directory structure.. I would be shooting
> > myself
> > > in the foot if I did, I change looks and other sections , but the tech
> > > section has been structure the same way for 2 years now. Yeah I
realize
> > the
> > > index page might be disorganized, I just have not had enough free time
to
> > > make a cute interface with a pull down menu...
> > >
> > > The idea behind my tech notes is to close the technical gap I have
seen
> > for
> > > years in groups such has scirocco.org, the missing link of a geek with
a
> > > mechanics book, trying to figure out what the hell the book is saying.
> > Yeah
> > > changing pads and rotors is "mundane" but the week I put that tech
note up
> > I
> > > got 12 email thanking me for it.. (grin) Yeah I do it for the
attention,
> > no
> > > seriously I do it because of my brother (long story).
> > >
> > > But I am always improving my details or pictures and information, soon
I
> > > will have a 2L 3a/JH Hybrid tech note from the start to the end...
300+
> > > pictures expected with numerous subsets for the various components
that
> > need
> > > to look at while doing such a conversion (from removing engine,
through
> > > rebuilding block to reinstalling it all together. Creating tech notes
is
> > > very time consuming, just taking pictures and notes of pictures while
> > trying
> > > to repair/fix/mod my own cars, not to mention creating the web context
for
> > > it afterwards, and unfortunately time is not something I have much
off. (I
> > > still have technote pending from 2 months ago..)
> > >
> > > There will be a mirror site of my tech notes, translated in German,
the
> > > Munich Scirocco Group, requested a complete download of all tech notes
> > last
> > > month, and they will be translating them into German and posting (with
> > link
> > > to my web site in "links section") it on their Club Web page by end of
> > year.
> > > (that is a lot of work), and the arrangement I had with them is, its
your
> > > web site, you deal with it, I provide data, I don't manage it.
> > >
> > > I'll admit I' m kind of a Frenchman jerk off, everyone and their dog
know
> > > about my web site, I constantly publish a relevant tech note when a
> > question
> > > in email is requested, and my site has been up for years now.
> > >
> > > I really don't want to manage "mirrors" (I gave in to the Germans
because
> > it
> > > was flattering to see all my tech notes being used in Germany for
helping
> > > support another group with the data (not to mention that the web
master
> > and
> > > club member was persistent about this for 3 months before I gave in),
and
> > > managing does includes "transferring updates", and since I don't like
> > > external users on my box on ftp, I am not keen on "pulling data".
so...
> > >
> > > The solution of a simple " changing front pads and rotors " (for
example)
> > > selector bar, calling the tech note from my web site to your page (I
can
> > > even change my schemes to make it transparent to users) is the simple
> > > solution here, low maintenance for you, all I need for me is when I
put a
> > > new technote p, is to email you with the link, and if my web site is
down
> > > when the page is requested, it will simply display a 404 Error
message. If
> > > you want the data, I can send it to you, be forewarned the tech note
> > section
> > > is over 50 MB large at this point.
> > >
> > > Beside if all my tech notes are on scirocco.org then why would I run a
web
> > > server for? why don't I take over scirocco.org? (grin) [commentator -
I
> > > can't believe he opened that can of worms!!! OMG!]
> > >
> > > lets keep talking about this here, perhaps talking about possibilities
> > here
> > > might convince others that might have the time to help to do so.
> > >
> > > I would love to, but I just can't manage it, sorry.
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------
> > > __ __________
> > > / |/_ __/ ___/ Patrick Bureau
> > > //| | / / \__ \ 1985 8v Prowler Orange "Beatrice"
> > > / _ |/ / ___/ / 1985 8v Titian Red "Lucky"
> > > /_/ |_/_/ /____/ http://www.longcoeur.com/scirocco
> > >
> > > =>-----Original Message-----
> > > =>From: Brett Van Sprewenburg [mailto:brett@netacc.net]
> > > =>Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 9:06 AM
> > > =>To: pbureau@attbi.com
> > > =>Cc: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
> > > =>Subject: Re: Is there a write-up for this? (was: 134a conversion
> > > =>update)-venturing OT...
> > > =>>
> > > =>
> > > =>
> > > =>Ah, you have misunderstood what I was talking about. What
> > > =>I was suggesting is that you actually PUT content ON the
> > > =>scirocco.org machine / host. It can be a mirror of what you
> > > =>are hosting on your own site, a subset, or even a superset if
> > > =>you were so inclined. You (or people like you that wanted to
> > > =>contribute like this) would be responsible for putting the proper
> > > =>content into the scirocco.org tech section, or FAQ area. Do you
> > > =>get my drift here? :)
> > > =>
> > > =>Your site was only 'unavailable' more then twice this year if I
> > > =>remember correctly (note remember correctly), but once (or twice?)
> > > =>it could only be accessed via an IP address instead of a name,
> > > =>which would naturally have broken all linked material also. I'm not
> > > =>trying to debate how 'hearty' anybody's particular site is, I'm just
> > > =>using some examples as to why I do not really like just linking to
> > > =>other peoples content...soooo sooo many have come and gone,
> > > =>moved, gone down, changed linking / URLs / content or what-ever,
> > > =>that it's generally not worth the hassle or administration for
content.
> > > =>Just linking to a site at the 'top' level though is another thing
> > > =>entirely,
> > > =>which is what the more generic 'Links' section on scirocco.org is
for.
> > > =>I am really tired of being dependent on other peoples hardware and
> > > =>bandwidth to run our system...note how many times our mail service
> > > =>has been interrupted this year.... :/ It would be especially
> > troublesome
> > > =>to have to police the site content areas as well as the links
section.
> > > =>
> > > =>Anyway, the real point here is that I'm asking if you'd like to help
> > > =>administer the tech section within the scirocco.org site by
mirroring
> > > =>what you've put up on your own (or a portion of it). You seem to
have
> > > =>real energy around even documenting what many might consider even
> > > =>the mundane. :-) We can work out the details of this offline
though,
> > > =>whether you'd like to or not, how the transfers could happen,
> > > =>editing, etc.
> > > =>
> > > =>Thanks.
> > > =>
> > > =>==Brett
> > > =>
> > > => \/ '84 Scirocco (ITB racer 2B) | "Hot VW's, take two home.
> > > =>They're small"
> > > =>\/\/ '88 Scirocco 16v (Show), '92 Passat 16v (Winter+) | -
> > > =>brett@netacc.net
> > > =>
> > >
> > >
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