If you use the 'animal' method, you'd place the new engine (on its pan) in your driveway, raise the car (sans front wheels) high into the air, slide the engine under, and drop the car on the engine. Get a hoist. Larry :) > how would i get an 8v (PG) into my Roc with out an engine hoist? i know how > to pull one out now...=0) > > tia guys! > > > > -Craig