how would i get an 8v (PG) into my Roc with out an engine hoist? i know how to pull one out now...=0) tia guys! -Craig "Nightmare" '88 16v (soon to be G60 Turbo!!) "Calypso" '91 Golf GL (Daily Driver) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com