Fwd: Re: Question for seller --(re:$600 fender)

[amalventano1@comcast.net (Allyn)]

    I think we are all just hit a little hard in the 'rocco gut' by this guy listing the parts for
that much $$. Contents of Al's 'rocco gut' (contains much unintentional flameage, please ignore if
necessary):
- I see building sciroccos is a (relatively) 'cheapass'(tm) sport. I've probably spent $600 on parts
for the twin. Sure i'll spend more, but for $600 i've got a trailer donor (with a 2l), 2 turbos,
rotors, suspension, all kindsa crap. I guess the 'rocco gut' contains part of rons 'cheapass gut'.
- we need to keep more of them on the road, selling fenders at $600 a pop isnt gonna make that easy.
- i hate people overcharging for stuff. i know some people might be willing to pay $600 for a
fender, just seems a tad excessive on the price to me.
- i hate it when some newbie (ebay- his feedback = 0) jumps on there and lists something not knowing
anything about ebay economics (should start it low, set reserve, etc).

anyhow, im off, heading down to the school tonight to do some ecu bench testing.
Al

Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 170k, rocco #6)
86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo Scirocco GTX ('it has begun', rocco #7)
87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0 rattles, original clutch, driveshafts, wheels :)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Neal Tovsen" <nealtovsen@yahoo.com>
To: "brett cooke" <vwscir88@hotmail.com>; <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Question for seller --(re:$600 fender)


> I've been following this thread a little, and I feel I
> need to make a statement.
>
> No offense to anyone here, but why do you care so much
> as to harass this guy? If you think it's too
> expensive, DON'T BID. If everyone thinks the same way
> you do, he'll get the hint. It isn't necessary to
> publicly embarrass him. For all you know, he
> subscribes to this list.
>
> Something is only worth what someone is willing to
> give you for it. There may be someone somewhere who is
> willing to pay $600. I doubt it too, but if there is,
> this guy just made a bunch of money, and his customer
> has an nice NOS-OEM fender. They're happy, and entered
> into the agreement of their own free will. If nobody
> buys, he'll probably re-list it for less and try
> again. Either way, why is it so important to you?
>
> I know you're not really trying to be jerks about it,
> and I'm not trying to piss anyone off myself or start
> a flame war. But try to think about it from their
> perspective, and maybe you'll see what I mean.
>
> People do this all the time on VWVortex and the
> i-Club, and it's part of the reason why I don't spend
> much time on those sites. All it does is piss off
> sellers and embarrass potential (or actual) buyers. I
> just saw the worst ever example on the i-Club, which
> is probably the real reason why I felt the need to
> write this post.
>
> My local Subaru dealer carries MRT rally parts from
> Australia. They're building a monster WRX for a
> (admittedly wealthy) customer. It will cost over
> $45,000 dollars including the car, will produce
> 600hp+, and involves flying MRT techs in from
> Australia to do the tuning. That's a LOT of money, but
> obviously someone thought it was worth it. When the
> dealer posted in the interest of sharing some exciting
> news about building a cool tuner car, some little
> troll got on the forum and started demanding to get a
> line item list of all the parts & labor because he
> just couldn't see how $45k was worth it. He shit all
> over something that the buyer and the seller were both
> VERY excited about, and purposely tried to ruin their
> day. Why? Did it make him feel better? More like a
> man? I dunno. For all the people he upset, I hope
> so...
>
> Like I said, I'm just trying show another perspective
> on the situation that maybe you hadn't considered
> before.
>
> Neal
>
> =====
> ~Neal
>
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