Fwd: Re: Question for seller --(re:$600 fender)

[nealtovsen@yahoo.com (Neal Tovsen)]

I agree with you on all your points, Allyn. My only
point was that he has the right to try to get $600 for
it. There isn't anything meaningful to gain in either
trying to convince him his price is too low or talking
about how f'ing nutz he is on the list. You don't know
anything about this guy, and he didn't do anything to
offend you. Why make so many assumptions about his
mental state or his attitude? Why relish in the fact
that he capitulated and lowered his price?

All I'm saying is that, if I were him and honestly
thought the fender was worth $600, and I saw the
emails about me on the list, I wouldn't think too
kindly about the people on Scirocco-l.

Neal

--- Allyn <amalventano1@comcast.net> wrote:
>     I think we are all just hit a little hard in the
> 'rocco gut' by this guy listing the parts for
> that much $$. Contents of Al's 'rocco gut' (contains
> much unintentional flameage, please ignore if
> necessary):
> - I see building sciroccos is a (relatively)
> 'cheapass'(tm) sport. I've probably spent $600 on
> parts
> for the twin. Sure i'll spend more, but for $600
> i've got a trailer donor (with a 2l), 2 turbos,
> rotors, suspension, all kindsa crap. I guess the
> 'rocco gut' contains part of rons 'cheapass gut'.
> - we need to keep more of them on the road, selling
> fenders at $600 a pop isnt gonna make that easy.
> - i hate people overcharging for stuff. i know some
> people might be willing to pay $600 for a
> fender, just seems a tad excessive on the price to
> me.
> - i hate it when some newbie (ebay- his feedback =
> 0) jumps on there and lists something not knowing
> anything about ebay economics (should start it low,
> set reserve, etc).
> 
> anyhow, im off, heading down to the school tonight
> to do some ecu bench testing.
> Al
> 
> Allyn Malventano, ETC(SS), USN
> 87 Rieger GTO Scirocco 16v (daily driver, 170k,
> rocco #6)
> 86 Kamei Twin 16V Turbo Scirocco GTX ('it has
> begun', rocco #7)
> 87 Jetta 8v Wolfsburg 2dr (daily driver, 260k, 0
> rattles, original clutch, driveshafts, wheels :)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neal Tovsen" <nealtovsen@yahoo.com>
> To: "brett cooke" <vwscir88@hotmail.com>;
> <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Question for seller --(re:$600
> fender)
> 
> 
> > I've been following this thread a little, and I
> feel I
> > need to make a statement.
> >
> > No offense to anyone here, but why do you care so
> much
> > as to harass this guy? If you think it's too
> > expensive, DON'T BID. If everyone thinks the same
> way
> > you do, he'll get the hint. It isn't necessary to
> > publicly embarrass him. For all you know, he
> > subscribes to this list.
> >
> > Something is only worth what someone is willing to
> > give you for it. There may be someone somewhere
> who is
> > willing to pay $600. I doubt it too, but if there
> is,
> > this guy just made a bunch of money, and his
> customer
> > has an nice NOS-OEM fender. They're happy, and
> entered
> > into the agreement of their own free will. If
> nobody
> > buys, he'll probably re-list it for less and try
> > again. Either way, why is it so important to you?
> >
> > I know you're not really trying to be jerks about
> it,
> > and I'm not trying to piss anyone off myself or
> start
> > a flame war. But try to think about it from their
> > perspective, and maybe you'll see what I mean.
> >
> > People do this all the time on VWVortex and the
> > i-Club, and it's part of the reason why I don't
> spend
> > much time on those sites. All it does is piss off
> > sellers and embarrass potential (or actual)
> buyers. I
> > just saw the worst ever example on the i-Club,
> which
> > is probably the real reason why I felt the need to
> > write this post.
> >
> > My local Subaru dealer carries MRT rally parts
> from
> > Australia. They're building a monster WRX for a
> > (admittedly wealthy) customer. It will cost over
> > $45,000 dollars including the car, will produce
> > 600hp+, and involves flying MRT techs in from
> > Australia to do the tuning. That's a LOT of money,
> but
> > obviously someone thought it was worth it. When
> the
> > dealer posted in the interest of sharing some
> exciting
> > news about building a cool tuner car, some little
> > troll got on the forum and started demanding to
> get a
> > line item list of all the parts & labor because he
> > just couldn't see how $45k was worth it. He shit
> all
> > over something that the buyer and the seller were
> both
> > VERY excited about, and purposely tried to ruin
> their
> > day. Why? Did it make him feel better? More like a
> > man? I dunno. For all the people he upset, I hope
> > so...
> >
> > Like I said, I'm just trying show another
> perspective
> > on the situation that maybe you hadn't considered
> > before.
> >
> > Neal
> >
> > =====
> > ~Neal
> >
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