RE: What Oil to Use in a 16V and 8V?

["Patrick Bureau" <pbureau@home.com>]

To put my two cents of "common sense" in this conversation the recommended
oil DEPENDS on the heat/cold factors of your area
if you put 20w50 and you live in Alaska, It love to see try to cold start
your engine without any heating devices( i.e.: oil pan and block heaters
units) it is just not realistic, THAT IS WHY on the chart of your owner's
manual (Bentley, Chilton, Haynes ) indicate a "suggested temperature range
and the appropriate oil to use in those conditions"

In Canada.. 10w40 or even 10w30 in winter is VERY realistic, 10w40 and up in
summer (but it RARELY gets 90'F (40'C) up there
now in warm climate (i.e. TEXAS for example) 20w50 summer and 10w40 in
winter * it freezes in Dallas in winter* is again realistic... its all about
where you live and what the climate conditions are about.

In Texas I run 20w50, in Canada where I am stuck right now I use 10w40. case
closed.

for all the people that have no idea what I am taking, here is the run down
from the Bentley

oil          temp range
Multigrade oil:

5w20/5w30     -20F/-30C to 20'F/5'C
10w30/10w40   -5F/-22C  to 65'F/15'C
15w30/15w40   0'F/-18'C to 90'F/33'C
20w40/20w50   10'F/-5'C to 90'F/33'c

single grade oil:

saew10         -5'F/-22'C to 28'F/-4'C
sae20w20       10'F/-12'C to 55'F/12'C
sae30          30'F/-2'C  to 90'F/33'C
sae40          65'F/18'C  to 110'F/42'C

Page 2-8 (1985-93 Bentley reference)
Table C. Oil Viscosity Requirements Vs Temperature (16 V Engine)

Note Table B. on page 2-7 is the one for any engine except 16v
but is almost identical to table b on page 2-8

Patrick Bureau
1985 8v Titian Red Scirocco
http://longcoeur.com/scirocco
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org
[mailto:owner-scirocco-l@scirocco.org]On Behalf Of Ryan McCarthy
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 11:47 AM
To: scirocco-l@scirocco.org
Subject: Re: What Oil to Use in a 16V and 8V?


Just one question about something I'm not quite getting here: Would you
recommend 20-50 at 20 below? I just couldn't do it. That seems to be a
scary concept to me. If I'm wrong according to VW, then I'm wrong, but I
still wouldn't do it. I don't see why you would even need something that
heavy in a non-diesel, non-turbo engine. All I'm doing is sharing what,
according to my experience and knowledge, is what I consider to be
correct, just like everybody else does. I don't really need buzzers going
off and stuff telling me I'm wrong. Take my contribution on this subject
as just that. I believe I am correct and I have explained why, take it
into consideration or not. Doesn't matter to me.

Ryan

On Sat, 26 May 2001 09:44:55 -0400 Jan Folkson <jfolkson@optonline.net>
writes:
> I run 20/50 Quaker State in my car and haven't seen any problems with
> it.
> Ryan, perhaps you had oil circulation problems with the Jetta.
> 20/50 is
> what the dealer recommended to me when I bought my car in '86 btw.
>
>
> - Jan Folkson
> NYC, NY
>
> http://www.janfolkson.com
>
> '86 16V
> '99 Passat GLS 1.8t
> '00 Beetle GLX 1.8t
>
> >
> > --- Ryan McCarthy <scirocco777@juno.com> wrote:
> >
> > Please, please, do not run 20-50
> >> in your engine.
> >
> > Bzzzzt.  20w50 is the recommended oil for our engines.
> >
> >> My father did that to my jetta, before I bought it from
> >> him, on the
> >> advice of a mechanic. Two bearings spun and I directly
> >> link that to
> >> running too thick a grade in the car.
> >
> > Nope.  Total coincidence.
> >
> > I run Castrol 20w50 in every VW I own, and will likely
> > continue doing so for the forseeable future.
> >
> >
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Ryan
'82 Scirocco GL
'90 Jetta Carat Wolfsburg
Torrington, CT
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