Re: 16v conversion HELL.

["Craig Williams" <roccolister@hotmail.com>]

Jim,

I have this conversion in my 81 Scirocco. I used the non-a/c bracket and my
original 81 radiator. Then I custom cut an upper radiator hose (I think I
used a diesel Rabbit hose) to fit. I use a long pulley on my 90 amp
alternator plus a couple of extra spacers. The water pump pulley I run
backwards and everything lines up. I'm not running power steering or a/c.

Good luck. -- Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Jarrett <jarrett@rpa.net>
To: <scirocco-l@scirocco.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 4:14 PM
Subject: 16v conversion HELL.


> Ok, so Daun, Ben Harder, Nigel, and Paul Maione were here this
> weekend, and I really, really wanted to get my '81 Rabbit 16v
> Convertible to start.
>
> I've run into a problem:  I can't fit a 90a 16v A/C alternator into
> my car, which has no A/C.
>
> I told Potterman what I had when I ordered parts, so I got a non-A/C
> rad and non-A/C crank and water pump pulleys.
>
> The water pump pulley is too deeply dished, but Brett had a bunch of
> old pulleys from various cars, so I found one that I could shim out
> to align with the crank.
>
> But I physically cannot fit the alternator into the space between the
> bracket and the radiator.  It hits the rad, plus the non-A/C rad hose
> passes right thru the same space.
>
> I am using the big bracket that came off the donor 16v that holds the
> alt, A/C, and P/S pump.
>
> So what have other people done?  Those of you that have seen/done
> Rabbit 16v conversions?
>
> As I see it, I have four choices so far:
>
> 1) Use an 8v alternator.  The old 65a originally from my Rabbit
> Convertible fits into the space on the engine where the bracket fits;
> I'd just need to then fabricate a tensioner bracket.
>
> Can you get 90a alternators in that form factor?
>
> 2) Find the fabled "16v non-A/C" bracket.
>
> Anyone have one that could send pix of it, along with dimensions?
> I'm curious how it works.
>
> 3) Fabricate a bracket for the 90a alternator.  I'm thinking an
> asymmetric "H" shaped bracket that fits inside the ears on the block
> on one side and then flares out to fit around the ears on the
> alternator on the other, and that doesn't stand out as far from the
> block as the big honkin' bracket:
>
>
>             |     block      |
>             |                |
>             +----------------+
>             ||   ||
>              |   |
>             +-----+
>             |+---+|
>              |alt|
>              +---+
>
> 4) Get an A/C radiator and use that.  I mis-ordered the upper hose
> for an A/C rad, so I have that, but I am concerned that it will still
> have problems with physically fitting the alt between the engine and
> the rad.  I'm also concerned that the upper hose, while designed to
> turn 180 degress  out of the rad and travel across the top of the rad
> before going back to the block will interfere with the hood closing.
>
>
> Help!  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>
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