Re: Need your advise here!

[Joel Leclerc <deejay@info.polymtl.ca>]

I do have a 16v, and the clutch cable is not self adjustable,
but 10 days ago I went to a garage, and he did check my clutch
cable and told me that there is no loose at all, so he adjust it
to give a little loose (maybe this is the ~5mm he did adjust there)
So the cable is ok for the adjustment.

Could be a problem like you say, sometime it work fine
(happen less now) sometime sound like I'm not pushing the clutch
at all.

If I change the clutch, should put a different clutch (better)
or just a normal sash clutch (16v 210mm)?

Joel
87 16v

Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> 
> You might be OK, you might not.  The problem could be your clutch cable.
> It could have stretched to the point where it is not moving enough to
> disengage the clutch.
> 
> Check it. Try to lift up the clutch lever on the tranny, If you can lift
> it up more than ~5mm then it needs to be adjusted. You have a 16v right?
> I think they usually came with self-adjusting cables. They have a big
> ol' rubber thing covering where they join up to the tranny. You can't
> adjust these, so if it's worn out, it needs to be replaced.  If the
> clutch cable has some nuts that you can see where it joins the tranny,
> then it is manually adjustable, and you can try to adjust it.
> 
> If your clutch cable is not stretched, then I'd say your pressure plate
> is jammed. I had a spring break on a clutch plate and one of the little
> coils lodged itself behind the pressure plate, preventing the clutch
> from disengaging.
> 
> You are right, it does not sound like your clutch is worn out, but if you
> are going to drop the tranny, then you might as well get everything in
> there replaced so you don't have to do it again. Included in the clutch
> kit is the clutch plate, pressure plate, thrust plate, retaining ring,
> install tool, and i think some tranny seals. everything you need.
> 
> feel free to ask any other questions
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Jonas
> 85 Scirocco
> Joel Leclerc wrote:
> >To give more info on it, well it looks sometime exactly like if
> >the
> >clutch does not move out from it's place, I mean sometime I push
> >the
> >clutch to remove from gear and it's feel like I did not push the
> >clutch when I shift to another gear, it's more often when I'm
> >in the reverse gear, like the sound when your in reverse don't
> >stop even if I did push the clutch but stop when I remove shifter
> >from the reverse gear to go in neutral!
> >The reverse does that since long time ago, but now it happen
> >in other gear, and it's getting bad. Sometime it's like if I did
> >not
> >push the clutch before I shift a gear in, like in 2nd I have to
> >pull
> >very hard on the shifter so it goes in the gear, and makes that
> >terrible noise :(
> >
> >But I don't feel the clutch disk is worn out! I'm normally not
> >hard
> >on clutch disk.
> >
> >So what could be the problem? I had the price for changing the
> >clutch. Clutch kit (250$ US, original from the dealer) and
> >250$ for labour. What include a clutch kit?
> >
> >
> >Joel
> >
> >Jonas Karlsson wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, the clutch problems can be caused by things other than a
> >worn out clutch disk. The components that part-take in the whole
> >mechanism are:
> >>
> >> Clutch pedal, clutch cable, throwout bearing, clutch pushrod,
> >pressure plate, and clutch disk.
> >> To replace/check the pressure plate and/or clutch disk the
> >entire tranny must be taken out of the car. This is a big job and
> >takes about the 5 hours that the shop charges.
> >> So it is logical to check all of the components not requiring
> >tranny removal before anything else.
> >> The main part is the clutch cable, these can get stretched or
> >break their mounting places. The trowout bearing and clutch
> >pushrod also can get worn out, but less common. You have to
> >remove the "end cover" on the tranny to get to them. It is the
> >round green plate accessible from the driver's side wheel well.
> >> What exactly are your symptoms. Difficulty shifting? Like the
> >clutch not disengaging? Please give more info.
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >> Jonas
> >> 85 Scirocco
> >>
> >> Joel Leclerc wrote:
> >> >Well I thought about changing it myself, but I'm not equiped
> >> >to do it, and second if I have done it by a garage, if he is
> >> >telling me that this is really the problem and still having
> >> >the problem after I can go back and tell him the problem still
> >> >there. But he must know what he's telling me, so the chances
> >> >are that the clutch is finished.
> >> >
> >> >Question here! How could I know myself if the clutch is
> >finished?
> >> >Any test I could do myself, because I don't feel any slippy
> >> >clutch when I shift... Must be hard to tell me how to check
> >that
> >> >I guess!!!
> >> >
> >> >Joel
> >> >87 16v
> >> >
> >
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