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Re: transaxle-need help (long)



Unfortunately, loose lugnuts isn't the problem with me.

Wm. Josiah Erikson wrote:

> I recently had the clank, clank clank... and you know what it was? It was my
> wheel falling off... loose lugnuts. It was like, too simple for me to check
> or something. I felt pretty dumb. This probably isn't your problem, but...
> hey, why not check?
>     -Josiah
>
> Jonas Karlsson wrote:
>
> > Here's what I'd do (keep in mind that little of this is from transmission
> > experience, so take it FWIW)
> >
> > You wrote:
> > >>Only when the car is moving it would be like a clank, clank,clank.
> > >> Very rhythmic, and as far as variety in respect to speed: I didn't go
> > >> very fast seeing that I didn't know the seriousness of the situation
> > >> and didn't want to risk damaging the car any further.
> >
> > First, jack up the car. Check that all of the suspension components are
> > nice and tight. especially control arm front and rear bolts, ball joint,
> > strut bearings, axle nut, those camber adjusting bolts, and anything
> > else I'm forgetting. Also grab a hold of the axles and try to jiggle
> > them(side to side and turning), If they move at all then they are
> > getting worn.  A lot of play, and they will clunk while moving.
> >
> > This is just to check that the car is safe to drive. Since you are
> > planning on replacing the tranny anyway, you might as well confirm that
> > this is the problem.  If all of the other things are looking good, and
> > the noise is NEVER there without the car moving, then I doubt any damage
> > could be done testing it on the road. Except for the tranny of course,
> > which you are replacing, so no problem.
> >
> > On the road:
> >
> > Try to rule out the possibility of some other componend clunking. Get up
> > to speed and take it out of gear. Take a couple of turns like this.  If
> > the noise happens, then I'd bet on a post tranny drivetrain component.
> > (CV's, wheel bearings)
> >
> > Tranny noises tend to be directly related to RPM's, so on an up shift,
> > you would expect the noise to have less frequency.
> >
> > Remember, even though the car is out of gear, the tranny components are
> > still spinning. The transaxle driveshaft is turning anytime the engine
> > is on and the clutch is not pressed down.  The  (I forget what it's
> > called) shaft that drives the differential is turning anytime the wheels
> > are turning ( I think). This might help you narrow things down.
> >
> > In general, take not of the conditions necessary for the noises to occur,
> > and then go from there.
> >
> > Slink wrote:
> > >>> > note: before I had this problem I couldn't shift out of 5th
> >
> >  So let me get this straight. You could shift into 5th but not out of
> > 5th? Never heard of that. I know that there is a mechanism to control
> > tension on shifting into 5th, and it is on top of the tranny, just
> > behind where the clutch cable is. But that affects shifting into 5th. Oh
> > well, just a thought.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Jonas
> > 85 Scirocco
> >
> > sdf>
> > >Slink wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Wm. Josiah Erikson wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hmmm well hard to say if you're doing the right thing. This
> > >isn't
> > >>> really a
> > >>> common trans problem that I know of. Where is the puddle
> > >coming
> > >>> from?
> > >>
> > >> From the front of the car the left side of the engine oil pan
> > >>
> > >>> Find out where the transmission is leaking...
> > >>
> > >> I didn't see any leaks from the transmission, and when i
> > >checked the
> > >> oil levels, oil was coming out of the side hole
> > >>
> > >>> describe what the kind of clanking
> > >>> noise is in more detail... is it always reproduceable? Does it
> > >>> happen just
> > >>> occasionally or all the time? Is it rhythmic? Does it vary
> > >with
> > >>> vehicle
> > >>> speed?
> > >>
> > >> Only when the car is moving it would be like a clank,
> > >clank,clank.
> > >> Very rhythmic, and as far as variety in respect to speed: I
> > >didn't go
> > >> very fast seeing that I didn't know the seriousness of the
> > >situation
> > >> and didn't want to risk damaging the car any further.
> > >>
> > >>>     You may have a completely different problem altogether -
> > >doesn't
> > >>> sound
> > >>> like typical transmission problems to me. Lots of them leak.
> > >Have
> > >>> you
> > >>> checked the oil level?
> > >>
> > >> Yes and as I mentioned above there was sufficient oil in the
> > >tranny
> > >>
> > >>>     -Josiah
> > >>>     '84 GTI
> > >>>     '87 QSW
> > >>>     http://bork.hampshire.edu
> > >>>
> > >>> Slink wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > I am in the process of taking out my transaxle and putting
> > >in
> > >>> another. I
> > >>> > would like to know whether or not if the action I'm taking
> > >is the
> > >>> > correct one.  First, I am getting noise from the trans (like
> > >a
> > >>> clanking
> > >>> > sound) that at the beginning used to be heard only when the
> > >car
> > >>> was in
> > >>> > gear and moving (it wasn't heard when the car was moving
> > >when my
> > >>> foot
> > >>> > was on the clutch ,or when the car was stationary), but now
> > >sound
> > >>> can be
> > >>> > heard here and there. Second, there's a oil puddle (facing
> > >the
> > >>> front of
> > >>> > the engine) around the left side of the engine. What I would
> > >like
> > >>> to
> > >>> > know is there anything else that I missing that would insure
> > >that
> > >>> my car
> > >>> > would be driveable after swapping in the transaxle.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > note: before I had this problem I couldn't shift out of 5th
> > >gear.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Slink
> > >>> > 85 scirocco wolfburg ed
> > >>> >
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