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"Getting a bit Machiavellian, aren't you?
John"

Not sure what you were getting at here, so I looked up the term.
"Machiavellianism is primarily the term some social and personality
psychologists use to describe a person's tendency to deceive and
manipulate others for personal gain."

AND.... "his name would be synonymous with deviousness, cruelty, and
willfully destructive rationality; no thinker was every so demonized
or misunderstood than Machiavelli."

Please restate that in terms of two syllables or less, please for
those of us with substandard educations.  I don't think you were
insulting me but I was wrong once.

Chris


>
>Scirocco content... MY car is still in pieces.  I ordered the part from
>snapon (detachable penis) 12 days ago and my card only was charged
>yesterday.  Guess I shouldn't have picked UPS Ground.  ruck me funnin'
>
>
>On 7/17/07, Allyn <amalventano1@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> >   we don't wanna talk about it.  I'm certainly no rabid lefty
>> > but I do wonder what you all think.  And even when it's dead
>> > and someone has to struggle to come up with scirocco content
>> > we still can't discuss it.
>> > Because it's too contentious.
>>
>> OK,
>>
>> Point being, we've been around the political block way too many times to
>> count, and each and every time it only serves to decrease
>> the signal to noise ratio of this list while simultaneously pissing nearly
>> everybody off.  *THAT* is why we avoid it on this list.
>> There are *OTHER FORUMS* to voice our repsective political opinions and/or
>> frustrations.
>>
>> Shit.  I've spent the last 2 years fighting for my career in the Navy -
>> just so I can continue contributing to my country in some
>> meaningful or productive fashion.  I have thousands of pages of
>> documentation, hundreds of sleepless nights, dozens of congressional
>> inquiries, and a whole shit ton of pissed off friends and family.  It has
>> literally consumed me for the better part of 2 years.
>> I've halted work on the Twin and neglected the Rieger and the rest of the
>> herd, but if you check the archives, you'll find that I
>> have only vaguely mentioned any of it here (the above is the most detail
>> I've ever provided on-list).  Why so vague on something so
>> important to me and to the Naval justice system as a
>> whole?  Simple:  THERE IS NO PLACE FOR IT ON THIS LIST.  I read this list to
>> learn about and assist others with their own Sciroccos.  I DO NOT want to
>> have to sift through political / beaurocratic bullshit.  I
>> deal with it enough at work.
>>
>> That said - I have no opposition to the occasional off-topic postings that
>> occur from time to time.  They spice things up a bit.
>> It's really like we are all family and are just telling eachother about
>> the cool thing we saw online somewhere.  Those discussions
>> are light hearted and usually downright funny.  Political discussions ARE
>> NOT.  Would you keep talking about someones funeral or
>> some other disturbing topic?  Of all the places to do it - would you keep
>> bringing it up on a mailing list for working on 20 year
>> old cars?  Of course not.  It just doesn't belong here.
>>
>> Opinions wanted?  Wish granted.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
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