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OT Now: [OT] Iraq




---- Original message ----
>Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:24:09 -0700
>From: "Chris Bennett" <scirocco16vr32@xxxxxxxxx>  
>Subject: Re: OT Now: [OT] Iraq  
>To: Allyn <amalventano1@xxxxxxx>
>Cc: scirocco-l@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>If anyone has noted I, Mr. Offtopic himself, have brought all of my drivel
>to almost nil.
>
>I think Spewey, the difference my friend, is that where I am generally
>attempting to be funny, nobody is really sure if you are being spiteful or
>what exactly.  Yea the world is screwed up, but a highly focused niche group
>of car enthusiests do not necessarily have the influence to change it.
>Bless your pointy head, you aren't the brightest lightbulb on the Christmas
>Tree but you certainly try to blink the most.
>
>Opinions?  Hrmmm.  I am by default mostly Republican.  I am not fully
>aligned to the Party and certainly don't vote the party line in all cases.
>Was Saddam a shithead?  Yea I do believe that.  I got really tired of
>hanging out in the Gulf for six months at a time enforcing no fly zones.
>Did he have WMD?  History shows that he did not but history also showed that
>he didn't have a problem using them when he did get them.  Do I believe he
>was actively seeking them and would have used them?  With no real facts to
>back it up, opinion only yes.  I believe he had been humiliated by the US
>and the Elder Bush, and would have done anything to get even.  Is the world
>a better place with him hung?  Not necessarily.  Shithead or not the people
>weren't fighting each other.  Were we justified in invading Iraq?  Yes.
>Were we justified in Occupation after that fact?  Undecided.  I believe that
>toppling Saddam was inevitable for the stability of the region.  I simply
>believe that we flubbed the play after the fact and were unprepared for the
>aftermath.  Then again I fully believe that we should kick all of the
>reporters out and make glass parking lots.  Until order is restored
>institute a curfew.  You get caught out after curfew, you get shot, you
>build an IED, you get shot, you set off an IED we level a city block.  Fuck
>all this kindler gentler shit the hands are dirty already.

Getting a bit Machiavellian, aren't you? 
John

>
>Scirocco content... MY car is still in pieces.  I ordered the part from
>snapon (detachable penis) 12 days ago and my card only was charged
>yesterday.  Guess I shouldn't have picked UPS Ground.  ruck me funnin'
>
>
>On 7/17/07, Allyn <amalventano1@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> >   we don't wanna talk about it.  I'm certainly no rabid lefty
>> > but I do wonder what you all think.  And even when it's dead
>> > and someone has to struggle to come up with scirocco content
>> > we still can't discuss it.
>> > Because it's too contentious.
>>
>> OK,
>>
>> Point being, we've been around the political block way too many times to
>> count, and each and every time it only serves to decrease
>> the signal to noise ratio of this list while simultaneously pissing nearly
>> everybody off.  *THAT* is why we avoid it on this list.
>> There are *OTHER FORUMS* to voice our repsective political opinions and/or
>> frustrations.
>>
>> Shit.  I've spent the last 2 years fighting for my career in the Navy -
>> just so I can continue contributing to my country in some
>> meaningful or productive fashion.  I have thousands of pages of
>> documentation, hundreds of sleepless nights, dozens of congressional
>> inquiries, and a whole shit ton of pissed off friends and family.  It has
>> literally consumed me for the better part of 2 years.
>> I've halted work on the Twin and neglected the Rieger and the rest of the
>> herd, but if you check the archives, you'll find that I
>> have only vaguely mentioned any of it here (the above is the most detail
>> I've ever provided on-list).  Why so vague on something so
>> important to me and to the Naval justice system as a
>> whole?  Simple:  THERE IS NO PLACE FOR IT ON THIS LIST.  I read this list to
>> learn about and assist others with their own Sciroccos.  I DO NOT want to
>> have to sift through political / beaurocratic bullshit.  I
>> deal with it enough at work.
>>
>> That said - I have no opposition to the occasional off-topic postings that
>> occur from time to time.  They spice things up a bit.
>> It's really like we are all family and are just telling eachother about
>> the cool thing we saw online somewhere.  Those discussions
>> are light hearted and usually downright funny.  Political discussions ARE
>> NOT.  Would you keep talking about someones funeral or
>> some other disturbing topic?  Of all the places to do it - would you keep
>> bringing it up on a mailing list for working on 20 year
>> old cars?  Of course not.  It just doesn't belong here.
>>
>> Opinions wanted?  Wish granted.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
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