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OT Now: [OT] Iraq



If anyone has noted I, Mr. Offtopic himself, have brought all of my drivel
to almost nil.

I think Spewey, the difference my friend, is that where I am generally
attempting to be funny, nobody is really sure if you are being spiteful or
what exactly.  Yea the world is screwed up, but a highly focused niche group
of car enthusiests do not necessarily have the influence to change it.
Bless your pointy head, you aren't the brightest lightbulb on the Christmas
Tree but you certainly try to blink the most.

Opinions?  Hrmmm.  I am by default mostly Republican.  I am not fully
aligned to the Party and certainly don't vote the party line in all cases.
Was Saddam a shithead?  Yea I do believe that.  I got really tired of
hanging out in the Gulf for six months at a time enforcing no fly zones.
Did he have WMD?  History shows that he did not but history also showed that
he didn't have a problem using them when he did get them.  Do I believe he
was actively seeking them and would have used them?  With no real facts to
back it up, opinion only yes.  I believe he had been humiliated by the US
and the Elder Bush, and would have done anything to get even.  Is the world
a better place with him hung?  Not necessarily.  Shithead or not the people
weren't fighting each other.  Were we justified in invading Iraq?  Yes.
Were we justified in Occupation after that fact?  Undecided.  I believe that
toppling Saddam was inevitable for the stability of the region.  I simply
believe that we flubbed the play after the fact and were unprepared for the
aftermath.  Then again I fully believe that we should kick all of the
reporters out and make glass parking lots.  Until order is restored
institute a curfew.  You get caught out after curfew, you get shot, you
build an IED, you get shot, you set off an IED we level a city block.  Fuck
all this kindler gentler shit the hands are dirty already.

Scirocco content... MY car is still in pieces.  I ordered the part from
snapon (detachable penis) 12 days ago and my card only was charged
yesterday.  Guess I shouldn't have picked UPS Ground.  ruck me funnin'


On 7/17/07, Allyn <amalventano1@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >   we don't wanna talk about it.  I'm certainly no rabid lefty
> > but I do wonder what you all think.  And even when it's dead
> > and someone has to struggle to come up with scirocco content
> > we still can't discuss it.
> > Because it's too contentious.
>
> OK,
>
> Point being, we've been around the political block way too many times to
> count, and each and every time it only serves to decrease
> the signal to noise ratio of this list while simultaneously pissing nearly
> everybody off.  *THAT* is why we avoid it on this list.
> There are *OTHER FORUMS* to voice our repsective political opinions and/or
> frustrations.
>
> Shit.  I've spent the last 2 years fighting for my career in the Navy -
> just so I can continue contributing to my country in some
> meaningful or productive fashion.  I have thousands of pages of
> documentation, hundreds of sleepless nights, dozens of congressional
> inquiries, and a whole shit ton of pissed off friends and family.  It has
> literally consumed me for the better part of 2 years.
> I've halted work on the Twin and neglected the Rieger and the rest of the
> herd, but if you check the archives, you'll find that I
> have only vaguely mentioned any of it here (the above is the most detail
> I've ever provided on-list).  Why so vague on something so
> important to me and to the Naval justice system as a
> whole?  Simple:  THERE IS NO PLACE FOR IT ON THIS LIST.  I read this list to
> learn about and assist others with their own Sciroccos.  I DO NOT want to
> have to sift through political / beaurocratic bullshit.  I
> deal with it enough at work.
>
> That said - I have no opposition to the occasional off-topic postings that
> occur from time to time.  They spice things up a bit.
> It's really like we are all family and are just telling eachother about
> the cool thing we saw online somewhere.  Those discussions
> are light hearted and usually downright funny.  Political discussions ARE
> NOT.  Would you keep talking about someones funeral or
> some other disturbing topic?  Of all the places to do it - would you keep
> bringing it up on a mailing list for working on 20 year
> old cars?  Of course not.  It just doesn't belong here.
>
> Opinions wanted?  Wish granted.
>
> Al
>
>
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