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Car still won't start :(
Oh, yeah. We checked all fluids and that kind of stuff before trying
anything. I have a wheeled-cooler full of "stuff to start a car", like oil,
ether, gas, etc etc etc. I have also tried the bypass grounding, to no
avail. Also, set the flywheel and engine turns easily.
Had another respected friend stop by (70-something grandpa type who has
worked on all types of cars and planes, even built his own plane). I asked
for his opinion. We went out and tried to crank her, and he said "Oh, easy
enough, your timing belt has slipped. You need to set the timing." I told
him I had set the flywheel, but he believes it is the cam. So, I guess at
this point I am going to take everyone's newest tips and start going down
this list.
1. Replace timing belt and set timing (even though the belt looks new,
might as well replace it while I am in there).
2. Test (and most likely replace) starter.
3. Wait for Dan Snow to visit in February and let him get the car started
(heh, heh).
I have TOTAL faith that this car will start. I really don't believe the
engine is toast, because of the progress I have made (from no noises to
almost starting). I believe what is holding this engine back is the fact
that I am totally non-mechanical. I have to really try and study the
Bentley (and reference the Clymer and Haynes) in order to attempt anything
related to fixing the car. I appreciate everyone's input. The weather
forcast looks good for the days ahead, so hopefully I will be able to get
out there and get something done.
Lexan
>From: "Brian McGarvey" <bmcgarvey@gmail.com>
>To: "Lexan Blanchard" <lexan_122874@hotmail.com>
>CC: jdbubb@verizon.net, scirocco-l@scirocco.org
>Subject: Re: Car still won't start :(
>Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 08:42:15 -0500
>
>Please say you put something like marvel mystery oil or hell just
>plain oil in the clyn prior to attempting to start. Its good
>preventative maint. to keep from breaking rings, getting them loose.
>
>So .. here is a quick trick. most of the time it is the crappy ground
>from battery to transmission mount to body. Grab a jumper cable. clip
>on ground and clip on a clean paint free area on the motor. That will
>provide a nice ground and a super quick way to see if the grounds are
>crap. With the temporary ground in place crank the motor over if it
>goes fast then its the grounding. If it is still crap then pull the
>plugs and turn the motor over with a 19mm on the front of the motor. I
>should turn easily. if it doesn't get a second opinion, but i'd say
>its time for a low budget motor swap -- any 1.8 8v will work. They are
>usually avail for near free (<100).
>
>
>Bigmac..
>
>
>On 1/10/07, Lexan Blanchard <lexan_122874@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >Also, if the engine cranked, but the speed at which it turned over
>> >deteriorated quickly before it could start then that could indicate a
>>weak
>> >starter, battery or starter cable and ground cable.
>> >
>> >So, when you jumped it, did the engine not turn over on the starter or
>>did
>> >it turn over, but not actually fire?
>>
>>This seems to describe what happened. The car is attempting to start,
>>making the right noises, but sounds like the isn't enough battery. Since
>>the battery is new, I am going with the starter and ground wiring. I am
>>CERTAIN that the first start is going to be VERY rough. The car sat for
>>several years with no attention. Then the previous owner purchased last
>>Feb. or March. He was able to get the car started and ran it for about a
>>country block and it died. He was unable to restart after that and sold
>>it
>>to me in Oct. When I had knowledgable help right after Xmas, we checked
>>all
>>the obvious.
>>
>>**Spark is excellent and all the plugs are new (one of the things the
>>previous owner changed). **Rotor is clean and pointing to #1 (I have
>>several news ones if you suggest changing it also).
>>**Siphoned out "gas"/varnish. Replaced with fresh gas yesterday (about 4
>>gallons).
>>**Checked fuel movement and spray. We took everything apart and checked
>>it.
>> Even broke a bolt holding a line into the fuel distributor and had to
>>make
>>my first disappointing trip to a VW dealer. Did locate a Used VW part
>>dealer/junkyard here (YEA!).
>>**Replaced coil (necessary) and ignition module (just for the heck of it).
>>**Replaced battery.
>>** Set timing on flywheel. Now I did not set the timing on the cam
>>because
>>it looked harder. But, when I set the timing on the flywheel, the car
>>made
>>the most noise to date.
>>
>>So, at this point, I am heading to the Bentley and seeing how to check the
>>starter and cable and how to replace it :( I wish it were 75* here like
>>last week. Of course the week I have off work and can tinker, the weather
>>turns to crappy winter, and I don't have a garage.
>>
>>Thanks again!
>>Lexan
>>
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