Lookie what I found on Wasserworks.... (My take)

[julie at menloparkrandd.com (julie@menloparkrandd.com)]

Thnaks Nate, but this thread needs to die. I have been mailing Dave about the debt. After a loooong day, Allyns was the first mail I read that day. 
The reason I didn't mention the sale to the list? After the repairs, the car felt "squirrely" so I took it in to be aligned. The best the guy could do was with in one point of adjustment. Its still a bit wandery. (Not sure how to describe how it feels when I drive it). It still needs a lot of work on the front end as well. Ties rods, PS boots etc.
If I sold to a fellow lister, I'd never even come close to what has gone into the car. Why weren't the reapirs to the front end listed? Yup, that did bug me when I was thinking of listing the car, so I spoke to a couple of listers and the consensus was that if the buyer didn't ask, dont tell.
And I was embarassed that I took on a debt load I couldn't handle. I figured that if the car sold I could get Dave the cash he needs to fix the house and get out of the debt to a fellow lister. It was never my intent to harm Dave. I am fiscally incompetent (and as Jill says fashionaby incompetent).
Its time to go to work. Another day of shoes off playing in GE's databases.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nate Mellom [mailto:doubt@inwave.com]
>Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2007 11:28 PM
>To: 'Allyn', 'Scirocco list', 'Julie Macfarlane', 'David L Winchell, II'
>Subject: Lookie what I found on Wasserworks.... (My take)
>
>First and foremost, I have NOTHING to do with the said transactions, or 
>the current situation. That being said:
>
>I saw Julies post on Wasserworks regarding selling her car, and decided 
>to post it to the list for posting sake, just to bring it to the 
>attention of any interested parties. I didn't intend to bring any sort 
>of animosity, backlash or any other type of negative reaction towards 
>Julie. Julie, if I have caused an sort of hard feelings towards you, I 
>do apologize, it certainly wasn't my intent.
>
>When Allyn posted to the list the problems between "certain unnamed 
>parties" originally, I followed the thread closely. I knew who he was 
>referring to, as I'm sure many of us did, but he kept in on the down 
>low, not naming names, and I think that was a good move. Julie was the 
>first to call herself out publicly, to let us know what was going on, 
>how she felt, and what she was doing about the situation, and I commend 
>her for it. That was a bold decision on her part, but she felt she was 
>in the wrong, and decided to come clean to the list. The thread died 
>shortly thereafter, with some sort of private deal between her and Dave 
>(and that deal should have been and should still be private, in my 
>opinion). I posted her For Sale page a few days ago, because I thought 
>someone on the list may be interested. I didn't know the extent of what 
>had been paid, how much is/was owed, or if the matter had been settled 
>quietly off list. Allyn brought more details to light recently, and it 
>seems the situation is still unresolved, and tensions between involved 
>parties seem to be rather high. I'm one of the most unopinionated 
>people you're ever likely to meet, I'm very easy going, not much bothers 
>me, but this is beginning to irk me a bit. This list has been a cyber 
>"garage away from home" for me for the past 7 years. I've grown to 
>admire and respect many people in this community, I've had a chance to 
>meet a bunch of GREAT people, I've taken a ton of useful information 
>from many knowledgeable people, and hopefully I've contributed and 
>helped some of you out. I plan to continue to own Sciroccos, I plan to 
>stay subscribed to the list for as long as it holds out, and I plan to 
>attend all the Cincys I can. Arrangements like the one Julie and Dave 
>have have the power to keep this list on track, to create and nurture 
>personal relationships (person to person, instead of just words on a 
>screen), or it can destroy them. Not being involved, aside from afar 
>and with secondhand information, it seems Julie is doing what she can to 
>uphold her end of the deal, even going as far as posting TO THE LIST 
>that she's sending Dave a money order in payment. I've spent a lot of 
>time with Dave, rooming with him and Allyn during the last 2 Cincys, 
>hanging out with him, going for drives, sitting at Dairy Queen for hours 
>chatting, bullshitting, talking about family and friends, and he's one 
>of the nicest people I've ever met. He never stops inviting me to his 
>place, to meet his family, to have a South Carolina Cincy just to piss 
>off his neighbors. He has a garage full of Audi drive train I'll 
>collect from him someday. He's always got something nice to say about 
>almost everyone (again, except his neighbors), and he has a bunch of 
>REALLY cool cars (eat your heart out, Tonee). I've met Julie a few 
>times at Cincy, chatted with her a bit, she's always smiling, talking, 
>socializing, but only when she's not under the hood of her car (or just 
>plain UNDER it). She's been a major contributor to the list, doing 
>detailed web pages of restoration photos, welding tips and techniques, 
>she has her daughter very involved, and she's more of a "car guy" then 
>I'll ever be. I'm sure we've all learned a few things from both of 
>them. That being said, posting the car for sale privately, without 
>informing the list, seems a little underhanded, especially since the 
>list was informed about the goings-on when they transpired. If Julie 
>needs to sell the car to settle with Dave, or if she's just sick of the 
>car and the problems it's caused, she could (and should have, I think) 
>let the list know. That way we'd be able to see that some sort of 
>resolution is being worked out, and if she caused any hard feelings 
>towards any listers (Allyn in particular), she might have eased some 
>tensions. Whatever happens from here on out is really between Julie and 
>Dave, but I hope that the dispute gets settled, debts are erased, and I 
>REALLY hope Dave, Julie and Allyn can and will remain friends and 
>colleagues, and that when everyone attends Cincy this year, there won't 
>be any problems. Life's too short to be pissed off, hold grudges, and 
>make enemies.
>
>Maybe I shoulda added "long" to my subject line.
>:)
>
>Nate
>
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